Subject: Re: atppc(4) is misnamed
To: Gary Thorpe <gathorpe79@yahoo.com>
From: Bill Studenmund <wrstuden@netbsd.org>
List: tech-kern
Date: 02/07/2004 19:14:34
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On Fri, Feb 06, 2004 at 04:19:47PM -0500, Gary Thorpe wrote:
> --- Jason Thorpe <thorpej@wasabisystems.com> wrote: >=20
> > On Feb 6, 2004, at 10:34 AM, Gary Thorpe wrote:
> >=20
> > I don't quite understand what you're getting at.... alpha, mips,=20
> > powerpc, etc. systems already use "pckbc" and "pcppi". What's wrong=20
> > with "pcppc"?
> >=20
> > The fact is, they *ARE* "PC-style" devices, and these other non-PC=20
> > platforms specifically chose the PC-class hardware because it's cheap
> >=20
> > and available.
>=20
> And in the spirit of true pedantism, I should point out that pckbc
> supports PS/2 mice (pms device). From the man page:
> "The pckbc driver handles resource allocation and device attachment for
> the traditional PC/AT keyboard controller." [so there is some
> reference to AT].
Gary, why are you fighting this fight?
A lot of people said, "pcppc makes more sense." I think it's because they=
=20
think if the hardware as "PCs". Not "PS/2s" nor "PC/ATs". "PCs".
> But the PS/2 mouse appeared in...the IBM PS/2, not the IBM PC.
> Therefore, pms should be at least pcpms or preferrably ps2pms (or maybe
> ibmpms would sound more informative).
>=20
> The manual page for pckbd also indicates support for a PC/AT keyboard,
> so maybe it should be pc_atkbd? What about PS/2 keyboards: shouldn't
> they be ps2kbd? Can you tell the difference in a device probe anyway?
>=20
> Doesn't all of this sound enitrely useless and unhelpful? Does it make
> things magically clearer for PC/AT hardware? That's my point. I would
> agree that the rename may make sense in terms of what everything else
> is named pc*. [Why isn't com called pccom, atcom, or ps2com or why
> bother with com at all since that is MS-DOS's serial port? Hope this
> underscores my point some more.]
Actually, it completely muddles your point. Sorry.
Take care,
Bill
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