FWIW, I filter opt on line out from my mail server.  I have been spammed
too much by them in the past.  (^&  (Though I don't think that they tried
today...)

On a side note, I don't have anyone from New York in my NetBSD users database.
Nor do I have a NYC beering establishment in the database.

I hypothesize that you lot don't exist.


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  "I probably don't know what I'm talking about."  http://www.olib.org/~rkr/