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Re: -current broken due to kernfs changes
On Sat, Jun 04, 2005 at 08:55:56PM +0900, YAMAMOTO Takashi wrote:
> > This is acceptable, but the kernel needs to be able to handle both for some
> > time. Otherwise we'll have a problem for the upgrade (we need to upgrade
> > both
> > the kenrel and tools at once, and this is something we want to avoid if
> > possible)
>
> a question is, how long is "some time". forever?
I'd say wait for pkgsrc-2005Q2 to be branched. At this time 2005Q1 will
be EOL'd
>
> > > > Which means that you have to revert the pkgsrc source. not easy if you
> > > > don't have CVS access.
> > >
> > > well, so what?
> > > all userland tools are the same in these respects.
> >
> > Not really. Old tools with new kernel usually work.
>
> some system tools don't usually work.
> eg. kmem grovellers, ipf/pf utilities, etc.
> IMO xentools belong to this kind of tools.
For most kmem grovellers it usually is not a big problem, we can run a
system without them. For ipf/pf utilities it's annoying, and I consider this
as a bug. A Xen system without xentools is unusable, so I think we have to
provide a clean upgrade path, especially when it's easy.
--
Manuel Bouyer <bouyer%antioche.eu.org@localhost>
NetBSD: 26 ans d'experience feront toujours la difference
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