Subject: Re: 4.0_BETA fails to install ^U free vax
To: Dave McGuire <mcguire@neurotica.com>
From: Thor Lancelot Simon <tls@rek.tjls.com>
List: port-vax
Date: 10/05/2006 09:28:39
On Thu, Oct 05, 2006 at 08:41:30AM -0400, Dave McGuire wrote:
> On Oct 5, 2006, at 8:35 AM, Thor Lancelot Simon wrote:
> >>
> >>  It seems NetBSD is "porking out" to the point where it's just not
> >>practical to run it on a VAX anymore.  I find this *extremely*
> >>disappointing but I don't know what to do about it.
> >
> >Please explain, in detail, how the consequent follows from the
> >antecedent.
> 
>   It does so only within my twisted mind.  I read "wow, NetBSD blew up 
> on a VAX", then thought "wow, that VAX is either hosed or 4.0_BETA 
> hasn't been tested on VAX recently", then thought "wow, possibly 
> another way in which NetBSD is starting to become problematic on VAX".

I guess I still do not see what "porking out" has to do with it.

It seems pretty clear to me that the cause of the problem is the recent
switch from the unmaintained and buggy GCC 2.95 toolchain to the newer
GCC 4 toolchain, which has exposed a lot of problems both in GCC's VAX
target and in the NetBSD code.  On the other hand, GCC 4 generates much
better code in general so one would expect a performance increase for
tasks other than compiling.

-- 
  Thor Lancelot Simon	                                     tls@rek.tjls.com

  "We cannot usually in social life pursue a single value or a single moral
   aim, untroubled by the need to compromise with others."      - H.L.A. Hart