Hello from Gregg C Levine
Well a day....
On the GCC list, I just saw a message from our own Matt Thomas. It
seems he's one of the two maintainers for GCC for the VAX. While he
didn't mention me by name, he did confirm what I posted. I can forward
to the list everything that I've received on this subject, and its
getting to be an interesting one. But only by request.
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Gregg C Levine hansolofalcon@worldnet.att.net
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"The Force will be with you...Always." Obi-Wan Kenobi
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: port-vax-owner@NetBSD.org [mailto:port-vax-owner@NetBSD.org]
On
> Behalf Of Gregg C Levine
> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 4:59 PM
> To: port-vax@netbsd.org; 'Henry R. Bent'
> Subject: RE: GCC wants to declare us obsolete!
>=20
> Hello (again) from Gregg C Levine
> A follow up. (And I still don't know why the GCC list dropped my
other
> ID.)
> It turns out that the reason why they want to declare that blurb for
> GCC for the VAX, is that there is currently no one that they know
of,
> actively maintaining it. Two of them even asked me. Me? I'm an
> observer in this business.
>=20
> Who maintains GCC for the NetBSD ports? I should think that the
fellow
> who maintains the one for NetBSD/VAX would be interested in this
> issue.
> -------------------
> Gregg C Levine hansolofalcon@worldnet.att.net
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> "The Force will be with you...Always." Obi-Wan Kenobi
> "Use the Force, Luke."=A0 Obi-Wan Kenobi
>=20
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: port-vax-owner@NetBSD.org [mailto:port-vax-owner@NetBSD.org]
> On
> > Behalf Of Gregg C Levine
> > Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 4:39 PM
> > To: 'Henry R. Bent'
> > Cc: port-vax@netbsd.org
> > Subject: RE: GCC wants to declare us obsolete!
> >
> > Hello (again) from Gregg C Levine
> > Oh my.........
> > Henry, it happens that I remember a discussion with the lead
> > maintainer for GCC for one of the branches, I think it was the
move
> > towards the version 3 series. He was convinced that to drop the
VAX
> > series of ports was appropriate. I agree that it is indeed a Bad
> > Thing. I have not gotten any messages from the GCC list on this,
so
> > your message came as a surprise. And I know I am subscribed to
that
> > same list. I am going to post a message to it, today, and remind
> them
> > that there is a need for the VAX- entries in the GCC collection,
and
> > that a free simulator does exist.
> >
> > Also what's the status of moving towards to ELF for VAX? The last
I
> > had heard it was expected for this release. I can't recall if the
> > current release number is ELF, or the other format.
> > -------------------
> > Gregg C Levine hansolofalcon@worldnet.att.net
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > "The Force will be with you...Always." Obi-Wan Kenobi
> > "Use the Force, Luke."=A0 Obi-Wan Kenobi
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: port-vax-owner@NetBSD.org
[mailto:port-vax-owner@NetBSD.org]
> > On
> > > Behalf Of Henry R. Bent
> > > Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 3:32 PM
> > > To: port-vax@netbsd.org
> > > Subject: GCC wants to declare us obsolete!
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I noticed that in the latest round of gcc obsoletions (for 3.5)
> they
> > have
> > > proposed vax-*-*.  Link is here:
> > >
> > > http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/2004-06/msg01113.html
> > >
> > > This would be, I think, a Bad Thing.  Does anyone on the list
have
> > any
> > > pull with the GCC folks to say "no, don't do this"?  It was
> already
> > > pointed out in a followup that SIMH provides VAX support, and as
> far
> > as I
> > > know GCC has not obsoleted the pdp11-*-* targets... I can't
follow
> > their
> > > logic here.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Henry Bent
> > > hbent@cs.oberlin.edu