Subject: Re: Problems with current (1.6X) on vax?
To: None <>
From: Jochen Kunz <>
List: port-vax
Date: 09/03/2003 22:00:02
On 2003.09.03 17:43 wrote:

> But, from any sort of practical use
> considerations, I am beginning to feel like NetBSD just is getting
> too slow for any VAX of less than 5 vup and 32mb minimally. 
I have similar feelings. But keep in mind what you get with NetBSD 1.6
or even -current. A complete, modern Unix with sophisticated VM, UBC,
IPv6, softdep, UFSv2, ... that is still usable on a 15 year old 3.5 VUPs
machine with 16 MB RAM like a MV 3800. This is astonishing given the
resource requirements of other Unixes of this days[1]. You can use
4.3BSD-Tahoe UNIX. I have it on a MV III. It feels faster then NetBSD
1.6 but has a _lot_ less functionality. 

> But, VAXing is not about speed, it is more about the 
> lookie-feelie-smellie cult kind of thing......(:+}}...
No emulator, regardless how fast it is, can beat the sound of my VAX
4000-400 spinning a RL02 or a 9 track tape. OK. My AlphaServer 2000
makes a nice sound too. ;-) 

[1] I tried to run Linux 2.4 on a PPC machine with 16 MB RAM. It didn't
crash, but was _very_ short on memory.