Subject: RE: largest disk in a vs4000/90
To: 'John Klos' <>
From: Gregg C Levine <>
List: port-vax
Date: 07/25/2003 23:46:13
Hello again from Gregg C Levine
I know that John. However, I did state that I happened to be a lurker,
and that I came from that world. And that I have worked with the I386
port for NetBSD. My only work with NetBSD/vax has been in emulation
mode. I'm not a na=EFf, just someone who's more of a lurker, then an
actual participant. I have not had the chance to track down the
hardware for such work. So while I appreciate the reminder, it wasn't
really necessary.
Gregg C Levine
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: []
> Behalf Of John Klos
> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 10:12 PM
> To: Gregg C Levine
> Cc:
> Subject: RE: largest disk in a vs4000/90
> Hi,
> > Antonio, how do you prepare your disk drives for your operating
> > system? I seem to recall, and just had it proven for the operating
> > systems for the Evil Empire, that the drive needs to be formatted
> > before it can be used. Normally the hardware manufacturer provides
> > media for that purpose. Sometimes it's floppy, and a CD, sometimes
> > floppies.
> This is a NetBSD mailing list, not a DOS / Windows mailing list;
> therefore, one can usually assume, if it isn't clear enough from the
> context, that "formatting" refers to low level formatting. While
> SCSI drives can sometimes benefit from low level formatting, it's
not a
> commonly performed operation.
> DOS / Windows refers to the partitioning of a drive as "formatting"
> because of the fact that DOS' / Windows' origins are the floppy
> where formatting really was formatting. It's incorrect usage of the
> Hardware manufacturers sell the drives already formatted, but not
> partitioned. The disks you get are DOS / Windows programs to
overcome the
> various limitations of the 8086 BIOSes, generally.
> > That being stated, can an IDE/ATA type drive be attached to a VAX,
> > the appropriate after-market board? Or even a non-DEC specified,
> > disk drive, again via an after-market board? Remember, I am
normally a
> > lurker who typically uses the Intel family of neurotic hardware.
> Most SCSI drives can, generally, be connected to most SCSI
controllers. So
> yes, a non-DEC SCSI drive can be connected to a VAX SCSI controller.
> Regarding IDE, a company named Acard makes IDE to SCSI adapters. I
have a
> number of them, and they make an IDE drive appear to be just like a
> drive on the SCSI bus. So yes, one could connect an IDE drive to a
> using one of these adapters.
> John Klos
> Sixgirls Computing Labs