On Tue, 10 Jun 2003, Brian Hechinger wrote:

> On Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 11:29:38PM -0400, John Klos wrote:
> > 
> > I seriously doubt that ANY email client will ever duplicate the
> > functionality of Outlook. Its ability to run foreign code is unparalleled.
> > Even if someone can duplicate that, building a security system into Unix
> > to allow the email client to have unfettered access to all of the system's
> > resources is a daunting task in itself, and could take years to duplicate.
> 
> this has .sig written all over it. ;)

It's a wonderful quote.

Unfortunately the security model of Unix is one of its weakest points. The
fact that windows have "improved" on it is no small achievement. But we'd
better not start boasting about the idea that root can do everything, and
you have to be root to do anything beyond normal usage (the windows
improvement was the removement of the "beyond normal usage" :-)

And yes, I know that *some* improvement has come about in Unix, by the use
of groups, which *sometime* can solve the problem without having to fall
back to root, but really, it's still a lame security model.

	Johnny

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