Subject: Re: VAX 6400 booting saga: barred from using MULTINET (sigh!)
To: Gunther Schadow <>
From: Robert Schaefer <>
List: port-vax
Date: 12/08/2001 14:24:43
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From: "Gunther Schadow" <>
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Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 01:55 PM
Subject: VAX 6400 booting saga: barred from using MULTINET (sigh!)

> shows all kinds of goodies. MULTINET is among them. No UCX though.

> What are my options?
> - get a MULTINET license (no inclination unless it's free and
>    does not require the rest of the VMS system to be set up
>    properly (it isn't, I can't even do a SYSGEN ...)

Looks like decus membership ( is still free.  Join up,
then get a hobbiest pac for VMS & layered products.  Currently it only costs
your time, (took 'em three or four months to process my app.) then I had to
manually type in the VMS & UCX pac, then ftp'd the whole layered pac over.
I *heard* but won't swear to it that the hobbiest licenses don't care about
serial numbers.  I can confirm that a pac I got for my 6310 accepts my 6320
with a non-matching 2nd processor.

On a side note, are there any benefits to the various EEPROM versions on the
different processors?  I don't believe my 6320 will autoboot with the
mismatching eeprom error I'm getting now, but I'd hate to erase a firmware
upgrade just because I don't know what I'm doing!

> - swap in the original 6500 processor (KA65A?) on which this
>    system used to run and hope it will be enough to make it
>    think its on the system with a license? My only concern is
>    that the 6500 needs the special backplane or power adapter card,
>    which I happen to have but want to be sure to use right.

If you don't have any (or expired) licenses installed, it won't help.  What
does (from memory) `show license/full' say?

I'm in a similar spot-- I want pacs for my latest haul (VS3100m40), but I
don't seem to have my decus number wrote down anywhere!

> - Screw multinet and find some DECnet implementation for FreeBSD.
>    Heck, obviously Linux has a DECnet support, so why don't we?
>    The serial port is just not an option to move the several
>    hundred MB of ULTRIX data over.
> If I plug in the special card and the KA65A processor and the
> MS65A memory, I should be able to make my system a 6500 right?
> That would be the original system, so MULTINET should not refuse
> to run.

Two of the three machines I currently have came with the license database
erased.  I hear there's an unerase for VMS, but it suffers from much the
same problems as an ffs-filesystem unerase does.

> Does anyone know about old or new DECnet support on BSD?


> thanks,
> -Gunther
> --
> Gunther Schadow, M.D., Ph.D.          
> Medical Information Scientist      Regenstrief Institute for Health Care
> Adjunct Assistant Professor        Indiana University School of Medicine
> tel:1(317)630-7960