Subject: RE: VAX 6000-400 series and NetBSD, I have machines
To: None <port-vax@netbsd.org>
From: Schilling, Richard <RSchilling@affiliatedhealth.org>
List: port-vax
Date: 04/02/2001 09:38:44
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gunther Schadow [mailto:gunther@aurora.regenstrief.org]
> Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2001 8:27 PM
> To: Anders Magnusson
> Cc: port-vax@netbsd.org
> Subject: Re: VAX 6000-400 series and NetBSD, I have machines

> Also, my stuff is from a cluster, so it's got no disks. Which ones 
> should I try focussing on in my hunting? DSSI, SDI, or SCSI? Right 
> now I'm trying on all fronts. I would have loved SCSI, but seems like 
> DSSI looks more likely and more affordable. SDI's main problem is 
> shipping :-)
> 

Trying all fronts should actually work well, until you know exactly how the
cluster
was set up.  If you reproduce the cluster it should then be easier to 
add and subtract components, because with each hardware change you 
have some configuration to do.  Don't know that NetBSD on VAX recognizes
the VAX clusters as Digital designed them. . . 

> Finally, let me know which books I should stick my nose into. I am
> pretty blank on the VAX architecture in general, and XMI and VAXBI
> DSSI, SDI etc. in particular. Where can I learn the basics?

Digital was excellent in their manual writing!  You should seek out the
manual set on programming, assembly language, device driver creation,
etc. .  .  Since you're getting the hardware from your university, you
should be able to find some great documentation.

> 
> Do you recommend me to work off a running VMS system or Ultrix? (I'm
> shooting for Ultrix).

Ultrix would be my bet.  But, if you can't try a Posix shell for OpenVMS.

> 
> Does NetBSD support the multiple processors in an SMP fashion at all 
> or only one? What is NetBSD's take on the VAX architecture? (I'm not
> asking you to explain to me, just to let me know what I should not
> miss out to read.)
> 
> Thank you,
> -Gunther
> 



Richard Schilling
Web Integration Programmer/Webmaster
phone: 360.856.7129
fax: 360.856.7166
URL: http://www.affiliatedhealth.org

Affiliated Health Services
Information Systems
1971 Highway 20
Mount Vernon, WA USA

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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; -----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; From: Gunther Schadow [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:gunther@aurora.regenstrief.org">mailto:gunther@aurora.reg=
enstrief.org</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2001 8:27 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; To: Anders Magnusson</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Cc: port-vax@netbsd.org</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Subject: Re: VAX 6000-400 series and NetBSD, I =
have machines</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Also, my stuff is from a cluster, so it's got no =
disks. Which ones </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; should I try focussing on in my hunting? DSSI, =
SDI, or SCSI? Right </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; now I'm trying on all fronts. I would have =
loved SCSI, but seems like </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; DSSI looks more likely and more affordable. =
SDI's main problem is </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; shipping :-)</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Trying all fronts should actually work well, until =
you know exactly how the cluster</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>was set up.&nbsp; If you reproduce the cluster it =
should then be easier to </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>add and subtract components, because with each =
hardware change you </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>have some configuration to do.&nbsp; Don't know that =
NetBSD on VAX recognizes</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>the VAX clusters as Digital designed them. . . =
</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Finally, let me know which books I should stick =
my nose into. I am</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; pretty blank on the VAX architecture in =
general, and XMI and VAXBI</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; DSSI, SDI etc. in particular. Where can I learn =
the basics?</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Digital was excellent in their manual writing!&nbsp; =
You should seek out the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>manual set on programming, assembly language, device =
driver creation,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>etc. .&nbsp; .&nbsp; Since you're getting the =
hardware from your university, you</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>should be able to find some great =
documentation.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Do you recommend me to work off a running VMS =
system or Ultrix? (I'm</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; shooting for Ultrix).</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Ultrix would be my bet.&nbsp; But, if you can't try a =
Posix shell for OpenVMS.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Does NetBSD support the multiple processors in =
an SMP fashion at all </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; or only one? What is NetBSD's take on the VAX =
architecture? (I'm not</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; asking you to explain to me, just to let me =
know what I should not</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; miss out to read.)</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Thank you,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; -Gunther</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
</P>
<BR>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Richard Schilling</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Web Integration Programmer/Webmaster</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>phone: 360.856.7129</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>fax: 360.856.7166</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>URL: <A HREF=3D"http://www.affiliatedhealth.org" =
TARGET=3D"_blank">http://www.affiliatedhealth.org</A></FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Affiliated Health Services</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Information Systems</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>1971 Highway 20</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Mount Vernon, WA USA</FONT>
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