Anders Magnusson drunkenly mumbled...
> > 
> > Volvo stopped being what it used to be when they hired Peter Horbury
> > and introduced the front-wheel-driven S40/V40 line.  I'm never going
> > to sell my 242. :-)
> > 
> Well, I still drive my old Volvo 164E. That's a _real_ volvo with a
> _real_ engine in it :-)

Volvo the car maker is now owned by Ford i believe.  i could be wrong, but
either way i had no association with that "branch" of the business.  i worked
for Mack Trucks.  wanna talk about real engines?  these things weigh more than
your entire 164E.  :)

since i'm already taking the time and wasting the bits, i'll throw some trivia
out there for ya all.

Somebody at Volvo made a very wise choice a while ago to break Volvo's IT
department off from the company and make it a stand-alone company.  basically
fore-seeing the decline of the trucking industry.  so now there are three
Volvos: Volvo/Ford (cars), Volvo (trucks), and Volvo IT (take a wild guess)

Volvo IT is contracted by Volvo and Volvo/Ford to do all their IT work.  but
they aren't stopping there.  since Volvo IT is a consulting firm they are
going after other contracts anywhere they can get them.  i can't give out any
more information than that though (not due to an NDA, but rather, that's all
i know)

i was laid off shortly after Volvo purchased the Mack/Renault pair.  honestly,
i'm glad to see it happen, because Renault was gonna run Mack into the ground
at the rate they were doing.  i don't know how much future there is for Mack,
but at least being owned by a fairly compentant company give them a better
chance of surviving.

> (This was very of-topic...)

yes, it is, so i promise not to post any more to the list.  however, this
isn't some tight-wad mailing list where people get all bent out of shape over
OT subjects, plus i thought this would be somewhat interesting to this group.

cheers,

-brian