Subject: Re: Test kernel available
To: None <>
From: Michael Kukat <>
List: port-vax
Date: 01/16/2001 08:59:23
Hi !

On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, Brian Hechinger wrote:
> > Don't think about DECstations... VAXen are _VERY_ different.
> from the little i know, VAXen are closer to the PDP than the DECstation. they
> at least share a bus, although there are some TURBOchannel VAXen out there, so
> that isn't a good example. :)

VAXen are the successors of the PDPs, the majority of VAXen having a real bus
use the same QBus as the smaller PDPs did. Only very new VAXen use the
TurboChannel (VAXstation 4000 series). But there are also BI, XMI and some
other buses out there in the VAXen.
Look at the assembly language: VAXen are more relates to PDPs, they are CISC
machines. DECstations are RISC machines and only exist due to DEC didn't get
the Alpha CPU finished in time AFAIK.

> total and 100% complete failure.  had nothing to do with the VAX, it looks like
> the ftp proxy in IPFILTER is causing my firewall to poop out on me.  every
> time i clicked on the "NetBSD-1.5/vax via FTP" link on the web site the
> firewall would spew garbage out to the console, dump a crash image and reboot.

Strange. Ok, my ipfilter config hat some strange blocks in the logs, but in
general it works, i tested it from outside. But i don't use the ftp proxy thing
of ipfilter to come out.
In the worst case, i could mail you the kernel. But i think you should have a
closer look at your firewall, it seems to be a bit too secure in blocking
packets :) I use OpenBSD 2.7 on a Personal DECstation 5000/25 and have no


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