On Sun, 14 May 2000, John Wilson wrote:

> >From: Johnny Billquist <bqt@Update.UU.SE>
> 
> >Note that this is true of all terminal cables (with the possible exception
> >of IBM PCs which are notoriously backwards and un-standard on all
> >accounts).
> 
> Actually, PCs were surprisingly normal with RS232, perfectly vanilla DB25P
> wired as DTE, just like what DEC uses.  Well, except that the original
> IBM serial card could do 20 mA over the same connector if you reversed a
> jumper block.  But it wasn't until the AT that they screwed everything up
> with the crazy DB9s, just because those little board brackets don't have
> space for two DB25s.

Aha. I thought the DB9 was there in the beginning. It's the DB9 that I
hate. Not only did they exchange pin 2 & 3, but they also moved GND from 7
to 5. Argh!

Just hate it.

	Johnny

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