So on a KA650 (uVAX III (2.8 VUPS)) doing this: date >> log ; make depend ; make ; data >> log gives this result: chuckvax# cat build.log Sat Nov 6 23:29:19 PST 1999 Sun Nov 7 05:46:14 PST 1999 6hrs, 17 minutes for a complete kernel build. (So a uVAX II (KA630 @ 0.9 VUPS) should take at least 19 hours to do the same...) --Chuck