Subject: Re: RIP, VAX
To: NetBSD/vax Mailing List <port-vax@netbsd.org>
From: Brian D Chase <bdc@world.std.com>
List: port-vax
Date: 09/02/1999 14:50:43
On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, David Evans wrote:
> Lord Isildur wrote:

> > or, we could reimplement the encumbered code, much like CSRG in the Net/2 
> > days did, though i'd prefer to have it basedon 4.3tahoe and not 4.4 or 
> > reno, to have amore pure BSD, without the POSIX stuff and without the 
> > later sysv compatibility and so on.. :-) 

>   Oh jeez...we're not goiong down the Sokolov Road(tm) again, are we?  ;)

Yeah, plus supporting a "purer" BSD on a completely new VAX platform seems
really, well, contradictory.  If you're looking for a tradional BSD system
then stick to running it on the traditionally supported hardware.  I
understand the value and novelty of historical computing, but modern
hardware would be better suited to running a modern OS like NetBSD.

Grafting Turbochannel or PCI support into 4.3BSD would just be very wrong.

As far as other comments on the NuVAX thread.  I think a ROM based
emulator would be the most feasible approach to creating a new system. The
second most reasonable being something like the using the rumored
Transmeta processor.  I'd actually think it'd be really cool for them to
implement the VAX architecture as a proof of concept, if that's in fact
something they intend to be able to do.

Talking about designing and fabbing whole new VAX processors to compete
with Alpha and Intel chips, plus designing new systems around the
processor is just plain silly.  A cool idea perhaps.

-brian.
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