In case it helps all of the following are based on the SOC chip: MicroVAX 3100-30/40 (KA45) VAX 4000 Model 200 (KA660) VAXstation 4000 VLC (KA48) You probably cannot tell them apart by looking at the SID since that is implemented on-chip; you will need to look at SYS_TYPE (aka XSID) Antonio