I made a few changes to the bovine rc5des to get it to compile under NetBSD/vax. On my MicroVAX II the client benchmarks at 270.22 keys/sec for RC5 and at 2098.20 keys/sec for DES. (FYI, that's really slow. :-) -brian. --- Brian "JARAI" Chase | http://world.std.com/~bdc/ | VAXZilla LIVES!!!