At 07:58 PM 1/29/98 -0500, Paul Apprich wrote:
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>On Thu, 29 Jan 1998, Ben Ketcham wrote:
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>> | Johnny Billquist <bqt@Update.UU.SE> wrote:
>> | > Just for your information, this is called software piracy...
>> | > ULTRIX is a commercial product, even if the owner just have been bought.
>> | WHO CARES? That bunch of a**holes who call themselves "the U.S.
government?"
>> | F*CK THEM! I don't consider them an authority anyway.
>> 
>> Regardless of your opinion of the US government, I think that the
>> *owners* of the product in question, i.e., DEC (wholly-owned
>> subsidiary of Compaq though they now be) might care a little bit.
>> And whoever legally aquired the CDROM containing Ultrix in the first
>> place almost certainly had to, in one way or another, agree to respect
>> that ownership, before opening the package containing the CD.
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>before opening the package, have witnesses to watch as you stamp or 
>write "Without Prejudice" or "Under Protest" on the license text or the seal.
>That's how we protect ourselves from 'adhesion contracts' which these 
>agreements are.
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>> True, the chances of anyone pursuing prosecution, especially
>> internationally, might be slim, but some of us see it as a matter
>> of honour (especially where DEC is concerned; I'm not so personally
>> uptight about making 5000 copies of an MSDOS boot disk, although I
>> concede that this is hypocritical of me).
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>	I would have to disagree. Recently the US government withheld aid
>from Israel to extradict a murder suspect to stand trial in Maryland. 
>Export licenses would have been next if they did not yield. 
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>> 
>> You can argue that since DEC no longer supports Ultrix, they should
>> open it up in some way, perhaps a cheap/free non-commercial license
>> like SCO has done, and I would agree.  But AFAIK, they have not
>> done that yet.
>> 
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>Before we get carried away in this thread, the whole purpose is to get 
>these machines supported by using an OS that does not have this 
>commercialisation attached therewith. Would that be one of the main 
>goals of NetBSD?
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>Boot, Run, Compile and Compute with a Clear Conscience ;-)
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>P.S.A
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WOW you guys! I wish you all could focus this energy at writing a better
install program for NetBSD!!!!!!

Rick Copeland
Information Systems Manager
InterMag, Inc.
(NetBSD enthusiast) 
Rick Copeland