Ahh-ha!!!! Argh. I wish sometimes that I had a brain that worked. Okay. Next question about my install. I have the miniroot up, and have found Tar, but don't know how to use it. I have a tk50 on my 16meg uVAX II machine, and none of the tape devices in /dev seem to want to cooperate with NetBSD. Any thoughts on this? Thanks, Greg Linder fluke@mcs.com