Subject: Re: Seeking a laptop scsi disk...
To: None <port-sparc@NetBSD.org>
From: der Mouse <mouse@Rodents.Montreal.QC.CA>
List: port-sparc
Date: 11/07/2006 17:11:15
To reorder things a bit,

> (Sorry for polluting port-sparc with this.  But this was the only way
> I have to get the message through to him).

I suppose mouse@netbsd.org was out of the question, though I'm not
clear why.  But OK, if you want to have this out in "public", I'm up
for it.

> For crimes of having a broken mail server, I am fining Mike a
> retraction on my offer to send him all of my tadpole scsi disks...

Actually, I thought the offer was for one of them, not that I guess it
matters now.

>> 4FC445ED8D     1227 Tue Nov  7 17:19:14  hpeyerl@beer.org
>> (connect to Sparkle-4.Rodents.Montreal.QC.CA[216.46.5.7]: server  
>> refused to talk to me: 550 Please use your provider's mailserver.)

I find nothing at 19:14 past any hour today, and you didn't include a
timezone with that, making it rather hard to find the spoor in my logs.

Looking at the headers of your list message, I find you sent it to
netbsd.org from static-64-201-182-187.ptr.terago.ca.  Looking in my own
logs for *that*, I find six incidents.  The relevant SMTP "banners",
with timestamps in local time (UTC-0500):

2006-11-07 12:19:21.08: [MBcLXR.fXkL.HVB] SMTP reply> 550 Please use your provider's mailserver.
2006-11-07 12:42:42.04: [MBcMPd.ZZZJ.HfK] SMTP reply> 550 Please use your provider's mailserver.
2006-11-07 13:15:59.37: [MBcNZS.CLXm.JCQ] SMTP reply> 550 Please use your provider's mailserver.
2006-11-07 14:22:38.64: [MBcQsv.KPFC.JgS] SMTP reply> 550 Please use your provider's mailserver.
2006-11-07 15:29:19.33: [MBcTMZ.GZCL.KRJ] SMTP reply> 550 Please use your provider's mailserver.
2006-11-07 16:52:38.81: [MBcXLV.XfDl.LCg] SMTP reply> 550 Please use your provider's mailserver.

I suspect the first one, which is 17:19:21.08 UTC, is the one you cite.
Looking at its full log,

2006-11-07 12:19:15.84: [MBcLXR.fXkL.HVB] (6689) connection from 64.201.182.187/51981
2006-11-07 12:19:15.84: [MBcLXR.fXkL.HVB] crosschecking 64.201.182.187
2006-11-07 12:19:15.84: [MBcLXR.fXkL.HVB] doing PTR query for 187.182.201.64.in-addr.arpa
2006-11-07 12:19:20.74: [MBcLXR.fXkL.HVB] response, ancount=2
2006-11-07 12:19:20.74: [MBcLXR.fXkL.HVB] answer record 0 name 187.182.201.64.in-addr.arpa
2006-11-07 12:19:20.74: [MBcLXR.fXkL.HVB] found PTR for 187.182.201.64.in-addr.arpa
2006-11-07 12:19:20.74: [MBcLXR.fXkL.HVB] got PTR: static-64-201-182-187.ptr.terago.ca
2006-11-07 12:19:20.74: [MBcLXR.fXkL.HVB] answer record 1 name 187.182.201.64.in-addr.arpa
2006-11-07 12:19:20.74: [MBcLXR.fXkL.HVB] found PTR for 187.182.201.64.in-addr.arpa
2006-11-07 12:19:20.74: [MBcLXR.fXkL.HVB] got PTR: here.is.my.rdns.record.for.you.insecure.thumbsucking.mail.server.admins.beer.org.182.201.64.in-addr.arpa
2006-11-07 12:19:20.75: [MBcLXR.fXkL.HVB] doing A query for static-64-201-182-187.ptr.terago.ca
2006-11-07 12:19:21.03: [MBcLXR.fXkL.HVB] response, ancount=1
2006-11-07 12:19:21.03: [MBcLXR.fXkL.HVB] answer record 0 name static-64-201-182-187.ptr.terago.ca
2006-11-07 12:19:21.03: [MBcLXR.fXkL.HVB] found A for static-64-201-182-187.ptr.terago.ca
2006-11-07 12:19:21.03: [MBcLXR.fXkL.HVB] got A for static-64-201-182-187.ptr.terago.ca: 40c9b6bb (matches)
2006-11-07 12:19:21.08: [MBcLXR.fXkL.HVB] check_pool_name: static-64-201-182-187.ptr.terago.ca
2006-11-07 12:19:21.08: [MBcLXR.fXkL.HVB] static-64-201-182-187.ptr.terago.ca contains 64.201.182.187 at 7
2006-11-07 12:19:21.08: [MBcLXR.fXkL.HVB] SMTP reply> 550 Please use your provider's mailserver.

I note that you (a) forgot the trailing dot on your custom rDNS record
and (b) failed to delete the other rDNS.  In the above case, your
custom record happened to be returned second, and since the first
record crosschecked, it was used and your custom name wasn't even
considered; in another case your custom name came first and its
crosscheck failed:

2006-11-07 12:42:38.68: [MBcMPd.ZZZJ.HfK] (6920) connection from 64.201.182.187/51907
2006-11-07 12:42:38.69: [MBcMPd.ZZZJ.HfK] crosschecking 64.201.182.187
2006-11-07 12:42:38.69: [MBcMPd.ZZZJ.HfK] doing PTR query for 187.182.201.64.in-addr.arpa
2006-11-07 12:42:38.83: [MBcMPd.ZZZJ.HfK] response, ancount=2
2006-11-07 12:42:38.83: [MBcMPd.ZZZJ.HfK] answer record 0 name 187.182.201.64.in-addr.arpa
2006-11-07 12:42:38.83: [MBcMPd.ZZZJ.HfK] found PTR for 187.182.201.64.in-addr.arpa
2006-11-07 12:42:38.83: [MBcMPd.ZZZJ.HfK] got PTR: here.is.my.rdns.record.for.you.insecure.thumbsucking.mail.server.admins.beer.org.182.201.64.in-addr.arpa
2006-11-07 12:42:38.83: [MBcMPd.ZZZJ.HfK] answer record 1 name 187.182.201.64.in-addr.arpa
2006-11-07 12:42:38.83: [MBcMPd.ZZZJ.HfK] found PTR for 187.182.201.64.in-addr.arpa
2006-11-07 12:42:38.84: [MBcMPd.ZZZJ.HfK] got PTR: static-64-201-182-187.ptr.terago.ca
2006-11-07 12:42:38.84: [MBcMPd.ZZZJ.HfK] doing A query for here.is.my.rdns.record.for.you.insecure.thumbsucking.mail.server.admins.beer.org.182.201.64.in-addr.arpa
2006-11-07 12:42:41.88: [MBcMPd.ZZZJ.HfK] NXDOMAIN for `here.is.my.rdns.record.for.you.insecure.thumbsucking.mail.server.admins.beer.org.182.201.64.in-addr.arpa'
2006-11-07 12:42:41.89: [MBcMPd.ZZZJ.HfK] doing A query for static-64-201-182-187.ptr.terago.ca
2006-11-07 12:42:41.99: [MBcMPd.ZZZJ.HfK] response, ancount=1
2006-11-07 12:42:41.99: [MBcMPd.ZZZJ.HfK] answer record 0 name static-64-201-182-187.ptr.terago.ca
2006-11-07 12:42:41.99: [MBcMPd.ZZZJ.HfK] found A for static-64-201-182-187.ptr.terago.ca
2006-11-07 12:42:41.99: [MBcMPd.ZZZJ.HfK] got A for static-64-201-182-187.ptr.terago.ca: 40c9b6bb (matches)
2006-11-07 12:42:42.03: [MBcMPd.ZZZJ.HfK] check_pool_name: static-64-201-182-187.ptr.terago.ca
2006-11-07 12:42:42.04: [MBcMPd.ZZZJ.HfK] static-64-201-182-187.ptr.terago.ca contains 64.201.182.187 at 7
2006-11-07 12:42:42.04: [MBcMPd.ZZZJ.HfK] SMTP reply> 550 Please use your provider's mailserver.

If you're going to sling around labels like "crime of having a broken
mailserver", how about the "crime" of incompetent DNS administration,
compounded by blaming someone else for the consequences?

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