Subject: Re: [ (ID-number:13812) Petition for Solaris/NetBSD/SPARC Opera]
To: Brian Hechinger <>
From: None <>
List: port-sparc
Date: 06/18/2001 19:22:50

> > 	Linux emulation also works on alpha and powerpc (I don't think
> > 	m68k and arm has been completed yet), and solaris emulation should
> > 	also work on i386.
> so the best bet for NetBSD/sparc is the Solaris version then?


> > 	It also applies to NetBSD/i386, and NetBSD/powerpc (though I
> > 	think that may also still be underway). I use the pkgsrc opera
> > 	on my i386 box. Its passable, though it does have some quite
> > 	annoying quirks.
> does NetBSD/sparc do Linux/sparc emulation?

Not to my knowledge, but I might be wrong.

> > 	You need to convince them enough people would want/buy it. Maybe
> > 	put together a list of people and number of copies per arch
> > 	interest?
> i've started this already (haven't you already sent me mail on this?) i
> was just testing the water with the Solaris/NetBSD/sparc bit, but since
> (Opera) seem to be a little more clueful than other companies, i think we 
> should be able to make some progress on this.  i'll send out a mass cross
> list posting one of these days to all the NetBSD port lists, but i need to
> a little more organized before i do that.

I'm looking forward to it. I will buy this stuff if it becomes available.
Guess what I'm using to access my web-based email just now...

> > My main working machine is unsupported too as long as NetBSD is
> > not multiprocessor. It's a Sparc20 with quad Ross procs. And yes, I also
> what speed?  are you a lucky guy?  i'd love quad 200Mhz, but they cost a
> bit much, although i'd just be happy for a second 150Mhz HyperSPARC.

It's quad 133MHz. Lucky enough for me. :-) Actually as I rethink it, I have
no NetBSD/sparc box left. The webserver and firewall (sparc2s) are running
OpenBSD for security reasons and the IPX laptop ist doing the same for the
support of the internal cgRDI framebuffer in OpenBSD. Ah well, I will put NetBSD
on the VAX then to compensate.

> they seem to be pretty forward thinking about porting to stuff, and they
> also seem to be willing to listen to what people have to say.  i LOVE
> the web browser _AND_ the complany. :)

The browser evolved really nicely. Since version 5 it really is useful. Just
the Javascript stuff isn't working correctly still. I've got a lot of
problems with sites using Javascript for Navigation. (Like pulldown menus and silly
things like this, but how would you make your bank change their online