Subject: Re: Xserver on 5000/200: does mouse work with 1.3_ALPHA or newer? [was: Re: 3100 Mouse, was Re: New 3100 install]
To: Jonathan Stone <>
From: Simon Burge <>
List: port-pmax
Date: 02/05/1998 15:39:45
On Wed, 04 Feb 1998 18:26:43 -0800  Jonathan Stone wrote:

> >One thing I've yet to test - the mouse that didn't work (and I assumed
> >was dead) was one of the new style rectangular mouses (a VSXXX-GA),
> >where as the one that works OK is one of the older hockey-puck mouses (a
> >VSXXX-AA). 
> The mouse I had on the 3100 I booted before the release was a
> `hockey-puck'. I _thought_ it worked.  Simon, if your mouse works on
> an Ultrix box, can you try it on the 3100 again, with the DELAY(100)
> ramped up to DELAY(150) or DELAY(200)?  Maybe the square mouse needs
> a longer delay.

Ok, the mouse works fine on a 3100 running Ultrix 4.4.  I changed the
DELAY to DELAY(150), and now the square mouse works ok on the NetBSD
3100 as well.

> >BTW, Do we still need the `set +m' thing to start xfs?  I did it anyway.
> I have managed to reproduce this at last ):.  A 5000/150 consistently
> starts xfs, xdm and X without any problems, as long as I don't do
> ntpdate and start xntpd.  When I do those two, the first Xserver
> hangs.  I'm guessing it's a race of some kind on /dev/console, or
> possibly, just possibly, a bug in the select() emulation.

How can you not possibly run ntp? (half a smiley :)  ntpdate spits it's
time change info to the console - it might be worth trying a copy of
ntpdate without the console output then.

> >ps: We need to <ctrl>-3 work as <ESC> in console mode - arrows can
> >wait :)
> Uh, doesn't Ctrl-[ work?

Yes, but that's damn hard to type with one hand!  My fingers are used to
<ctrl>-3 - it works on just about every DEC-style keyboard around...

FWIW, here's timings for the 3100 building a GENERIC kernel (everything
on a local RZ25).  Nowhere near as bad as I expected, but I'll be using
the /260's for this in the future :-)

	basil:~ 5> time config -s /sys -b /var/sys/GENERIC /sys/arch/pmax/conf/GENERIC
	Don't forget to run "make depend"
	0.779u 0.591s 0:03.85 35.3% 0+0k 35+230io 4pf+0w
	basil:~ 6> cd /var/sys/GENERIC
	basil:/var/sys/GENERIC 7> time make depend all
		[ stuff deleted ]
	6114.265u 1157.778s 2:05:16.81 96.7% 0+0k 9665+13758io 7870pf+0w