Subject: Re: models and types
To: Jonathan Stone <jonathan@dsg.stanford.edu>
From: Simon Burge <simonb@telstra.com.au>
List: port-pmax
Date: 07/07/1997 18:50:07
On Mon, 07 Jul 1997 00:26:57 -0700  Jonathan Stone wrote:

> 
> 
>  >board   who     systype         internal name   "real" name
>  >------- ---     -----------     ------------    ---------------------------
>  >????            SABLE_2000      R2000 SABLE     ????
>  >????            SABLE_4000      R4000 SABLE     ????
> 
> I don't remember off-hand what a Sable is.
> (I know someone told me once, though...)
> 
>  >KN01    js      DS3100          PMIN            2100
>  >KN01    sb      DS3100          PMAX            3100
> 
> Uh, no, I said the 2100 is a pmin and the 3100 is a PMAX.  I'm
> positive that's correct, though I don't recall if the PROM
> reports a different systype.

I should have mentioned that the "systype" is a system type from
Ultrix's point of view.  It doesn't seem to list a seperate 2100.

> 
>  >KN02-AA sb      DS5000          3MAX            5000/200
> The PROMs in 5000/200s here definitely just say KN02.

Hmm.  I cut'n'pasted the "KN02-AA" from one of the /200's here.  Maybe
two entries, KN02 as well...

> The following are correct, I had  transposed  a line in the original table:
>   KN210   js      MIPSfair        MIPSFAIR	 5400
>   KN220   js      MIPSfair-II     MIPSFAIR	 5500
>   KN230   js      DS5100          MIPSMATE        5100
> 
>  >kn5800          DS5800          ISIS            58x0
> 
> The ISIS, aka, 5800 is the multi-CPU box, for x = 1, 2, 3, 4. Not the
> 5400.  (I've used a 5400, it came in a smaller-sized Qbus cabinet) The
> 5800 is an XMI-bus system like the 6200-series vaxes. There is one XMI
> bus with BI adaptors or XMI peripherals hanging off it.  I think the
> CPU board reports as a kn5800, like the vax CPUs report as kn6200,
> kn6400, etc.  Dave McGuire would know for sure.

Hmmm.  Got that one wrong :) That's why the ???? was there... (David
Burren also pointed that out).

>  >KN02-CA js      DSMAXINE        MAXine          5000/xx - xx = 20, 25, 33
>  >KN04    sb      R4_5000_100     R4000 3MIN      5000/150
>  >????            R4_MAXINE       R4000 MAXINE    5000/50
> 
> Uh, both the 5000/150 and 5000/50 report as a KN04, We established
> that already.

That'll teach me for doing this while I was flat out on some other task :)

>  >PROM info       who     what
>  >-------------   ---     ----------------------------------------------
> 
>  >KN02-BA v2.1k   js      Does not TFTPboot stripped ECOFF files
>  >KN02-CA v2.0m   js      Does not TFTPboot stripped ECOFF files
> 
> But these two should read:
> 
> KN02-BA v2.1k   js      No known problems TFTP booting as of NetBSD 1.2G,
> 			(don't tftpboot with kernels made by old elf2ecoff)
> KN02-CA v2.0m   js      No known problems TFTP booting as of NetBSD 1.2G,
> 			(don't tftpboot with kernels made by old elf2ecoff)

Done.

>  >KN230 V1.4      sb      haven't tested (5100)
> 
> Should be much the same as a 3100 PROM, i think.

Noted.

>  >KN04 V2.1k      sb      haven't tested (5000/150)
> 
> Uh, Simon, this one is the same as a KN02-BA v2.1k, it's what I've
> been using to debug debugging elf2ecoff!!!  The CPU module doesn't
> seem to make any difference to the PROM's boot behaviour.

Fixed that too..

> We should list a 5000/50 somewhere as "KN04 v2.0m", I htink that's
> what Michael Hitch has.  If you're going to list a KN02 as KN02-AA,
> I'd list the kn04 as KN04-BA and KN04-CA, just to avoid confusion.

As I said above - seems that a KN02 isn't a KN02 for some 5000/200's...

The revised list is below.

Simon.


board	who	systype		internal name	"real" name
-------	---	-----------	------------	---------------------------
????		SABLE_2000	R2000 SABLE	????
????		SABLE_4000	R4000 SABLE	????
KN01	js	DS3100		PMIN		2100
KN01	sb	DS3100		PMAX		3100
KN02-AA	sb	DS5000		3MAX		5000/200
KN02	js	  "		  "		  "
KN02-BA	js	DS5000_100	3MIN		5000/1xx - xx = 20, 25, 33
KN03-AA	sb	DS5000_300	3MAX+		5000/240 & 5900 & 5900/40
KN230	sb	DS5100		MIPSMATE	5100
????		DS5400		MIPSfair	5400
KN220-A	sb	DS5500		MIPSFAIR-2	5500
????		DS5800		ISIS		58x0 - xx = 1, 2, 3, 4
KN02-CA	js	DSMAXINE	MAXine		5000/xx - xx = 20, 25, 33
KN04	js	R4_5000_100	R4000 3MIN	5000/150
KN05	sb	R4_5000_300	R4000 3MAX+	5000/260 & 5900/60
????		R4_MAXINE	R4000 MAXINE	5000/50

PROM info	who	what
-------------	---	----------------------------------------------
KN01 v7.0	js	Does not TFTP boot files more than 1Mbyte
			(maybe PROM allocates a buffer around 1Mbyte?)
KN01 v7.1	js	No known problems TFTP booting
KN01 v7.2	js	No known problems TFTP booting
KN02 v5.3s	js	No known problems TFTP booting
KN02-BA v2.1k	js	No known problems TFTP booting as of NetBSD 1.2G
			(don't tftpboot with kernels made by old elf2ecoff)
KN02-CA v2.0m	js	No known problems TFTP booting as of NetBSD 1.2G
			(don't tftpboot with kernels made by old elf2ecoff)
KN03-AA V5.2b	sb	No known problems TFTP booting
KN05 V2.1k	sb	no known problems TFTP booting

KN230 V1.4	sb	haven't tested (5100) - should be same as 3100
KN220-A V1.3	sb	haven't tested (5500)
KN02-AA V5.3t	sb	haven't tested (5000/200)
KN04 V2.1k	js	No known problems TFTP booting as of NetBSD 1.2G
			(don't tftpboot with kernels made by old elf2ecoff)