Subject: Re: Power Macintosh 9500 / 132
To: Justin Davis <jrcd83@gmail.com>
From: Marcos Onisto <mlonisto@gmail.com>
List: port-macppc
Date: 11/16/2006 08:19:06
Hello All,

I have good news.

After that I set up the variables ( ' load-base and real-base ' ) and
used the lowercase letter, It's done.

I finally got to boot using the Media Cd-rom 3.0.2 yesterday.

0 > boot scsi/sd@4:0,\ofwboot.xcf netbsd.macppc

Even the Firmware returm me one error "no active package", It's go
ahead and It's continued booting until the Main Menu Intallation.

I have news problems now. When I finish the installation netbsd 3.0.2
and when I'll take the package for this release, I perceive that there
aren't packages for it. So I made download of bash package, I forced
the installation, but It doesnt work.

Are there only packages for release 3.0?

Thanks at lot my friends,

regards,

Marcos


On 11/15/06, Justin Davis <jrcd83@gmail.com> wrote:
> The last two messages from me were assuming you had made your own
> custom CD.  Just ignore them until you get to making your own CD...
> Make sure you set the loadbase and realbase as described in the
> install manual, type these commands:
>
> setenv load-base 600000
> setenv real-base F00000
>
> DIR doesnt work for me on the NetBSD install iso either.  The manual
> says this is because it is a Hybrid CD.  Try using DIR command with
> any regular CD you have lying around if you want to test it.  It works
> for me on regular (non-Hybrid) CDs.
>
> I can confirm that everything I have tried to boot does change the
> load-base and real-base using OF 1.0.5.
>
> -Justin
>
> On 11/15/06, Marcos Onisto <mlonisto@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hello All,
> >
> > I'm dont remember exactly the real worth of variables 'load-base and
> > real-base' , but I'll check out and try again.
> >
> > This Media Cdrom that i made was created about the Official ISO
> > macppccd.iso, I didn't to do a Media Cdrom by myself yet. I'm only
> > used the macppccd.iso and the cdrecord tool on a linux Operanting
> > System.
> >
> > I dont understand why the DIR command dont work on this Media that i
> > made about cdrecord. I dont know how the system know about these
> > files.
> >
> > All Media Cd-rom that i made of Nero (hybrid or joilet) dont work,
> > It's only stop to response when i execute the boot command even when
> > the led is blinking or return me an any error.
> >
> > Thanks about the link tools for Windows.
> >
> > I'll try again and show you about results.
> >
> > Thanks a lot,
> >
> > Marcos
> >
> >
> > On 11/15/06, Justin Davis <jrcd83@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I tried the boot command with the second argument (NETBSD.MACPPC or
> > > whatever) messed up on purpose and it gave me the "no active package"
> > > error.  Make sure that the names match up for the NETBSD... file.
> > > Remember, that file is the kernel (NETBSD-Install.gz) file that you
> > > renamed/moved to the root of the CD.  The names have to match exactly.
> > >  Joliet should be no problem.  Joliet/Rock Ridge CDs work on my system
> > > at least (it just ignores their long filenames).
> > >
> > > Just to repeat myself about your boot command:
> > > boot scsi/sd@4:, \OFWBOOT.XCF <HERE IS THE PROBLEM I THINK>
> > >
> > > The filename for the file after OFWBOOT.XCF must match exactly to what
> > > you created!
> > >
> > > show-children doesn't work for me.  I'm envious yours works at all ;)
> > > Oh and don't forget what michael said thats important too.
> > >
> > > Here are the free linux cdrtools for windows if you need them:
> > > http://www.geoshock.com/cdrtools <-- I got mine from here awhile ago
> > > http://smithii.com/?q=node/view/9 <-- another one I just found with google
> > >
> > > Good luck,
> > > Justin
> > >
> > > On 11/14/06, Justin Davis <jrcd83@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > I guess the second stage is not loading?  The second stage is what the
> > > > NETBSD.MAC (or whatever you named it) file is for.  Make sure you use
> > > > the same filename as the second argument of the boot command that you
> > > > have burned onto the CD in the root folder.  When I get home I will
> > > > experiment with my machine and tell you my results.
> > > >
> > > > On 11/14/06, Marcos Onisto <mlonisto@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Hello Justin,
> > > > >
> > > > > I have good news. I finally got to do some boots.......
> > > > >
> > > > > The last email I asked about tool for Windows because I didn't get to
> > > > > do my cdrecord to work on my FreeBSD, so my friend help to do it. I
> > > > > perceive that the results change when I boot only a ISO9660 Media
> > > > > Cd-rom.
> > > > >
> > > > > Even the results change, the DIR command dont work, but I show you
> > > > > below the results:
> > > > >
> > > > > Open Firmware, 1.0.5
> > > > > To continue booting the MacOS type:
> > > > > BYE<return>
> > > > > To continue booting from the default boot device type:
> > > > > BOOT<return>
> > > > >   ok
> > > > > 0 > dir scsi/sd@4  DIR method failed
> > > > >   ok
> > > > > 0 > dir scsi/sd@4:  DIR method failed
> > > > >   ok
> > > > > 0 > dir scsi/sd@4:0  DIR method failed
> > > > >   ok
> > > > > 0 > dir scsi/sd@4:0,  bad partition number, using 0DIR method failed
> > > > >   ok
> > > > > 0 > dir scsi/sd@4:0,\  bad partition number, using 0DIR method failed
> > > > >   ok
> > > > > 0 > dev scsi    ok
> > > > > 0 > show-children
> > > > > Target 0
> > > > >    Unit 0    Disk         QUANTUM FIREBALL ST3.2S 0F0C
> > > > > Target 2
> > > > >    Unit 0    Disk         QUANTUM FIREBALL ST3.2S 0F0C
> > > > > Target 4
> > > > >    Unit 0    Removable Read Only device    TOSHIBA CD-ROM  XM-4101TA0064
> > > > >   ok
> > > > > 0 > boot scsi/sd@4:0
> > > > > OF_open bootpath=scsi/sd@4
> > > > > read stage 2 blocks: 0. done!
> > > > > starting stage 2...
> > > > >
> > > > > >> NetBSD/macppc OpenFirmware Boot, Revision 1.10
> > > > > >> (builds@b0.netbsd.org, Wed Nov 1  01:51:32 UTC 2006)
> > > > > open /netbsd: Device not configured
> > > > > open /netbsd.gz: Device not configured
> > > > > 4471344-
> > > > >
> > > > > It's stop to work.
> > > > > I tried again:
> > > > >
> > > > > 0 > boot scsi/sd@4:0,\OFWBOOT.XCF NETBSD.MACPPC bad partition number, using 0
> > > > > OF_open bootpath=scsi/sd@4
> > > > > read stage 2 blocks: 0. done!
> > > > > starting stage 2...
> > > > >
> > > > > >> NetBSD/macppc OpenFirmware Boot, Revision 1.10
> > > > > >> (builds@b0.netbsd.org, Wed Nov 1  01:51:32 UTC 2006)
> > > > > no ative package4471344-
> > > > >
> > > > > It's stop to work.
> > > > > I tried again:
> > > > >
> > > > > 0 > boot scsi/sd@4:0,\OFWBOOT.XCF;1 NETBSD.MACPPC;1 bad partition
> > > > > number, using 0
> > > > > OF_open bootpath=scsi/sd@4
> > > > > read stage 2 blocks: 0. done!
> > > > > starting stage 2...
> > > > >
> > > > > >> NetBSD/macppc OpenFirmware Boot, Revision 1.10
> > > > > >> (builds@b0.netbsd.org, Wed Nov 1  01:51:32 UTC 2006)
> > > > > no ative package4471344-
> > > > >
> > > > > What does it "no ative package" mean? What is wrong?
> > > > >
> > > > > Another think that I perceive was my cdrom unit that came with this
> > > > > box. It's wrong because It's doesn't appear on the command
> > > > > 'show-children'.
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, the others Media Cdrom's dont work because the Nero Windows Tool
> > > > > burn It with the joilet option and this i can't change.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks Justin,
> > > > >
> > > > > Marcos
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 11/14/06, Justin Davis <jrcd83@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Hi Marcos,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > First, make sure you have read the installation manual and understand
> > > > > > that you have an OLD (1.2 or something) version of Open Firmware.
> > > > > > Make sure you understand the commands.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Okay, I just tried the method of burning my own plain ISO cd and got
> > > > > > to the install menu this way.  To make your own plain ISO CD simply
> > > > > > use whatever CD burning software you want and make a new cd, copying
> > > > > > all the files from the NetBSD Install CD to it.  Then, copy the files
> > > > > > OFWBOOT.XCF and NETBSD.INSTALL.gz to the root (top) directory (folder)
> > > > > > of this new CD.  (OFWBOOT.XCF is in the macppc/installation folder in
> > > > > > the NetBSD CD and NETBSD.INSTALL.gz is in the macppc/binary/kernel
> > > > > > folder).  Rename the NETBSD.INSTALL.gz now in the root (top) folder of
> > > > > > the CD to NETBSD.MAC to make things easier.  Now burn it!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This isn't a hybrid CD it is just a normal CD.  You should be able to
> > > > > > see the files on your CD [on your mac] by using the 'dir' command from
> > > > > > Open Firmware.  On my machine the command that does this is 'dir
> > > > > > scsi-int/sd@3'.  Now, you may have a different path.  The
> > > > > > "scsi-int/sd@3" is the path to my CD, your path may be different!  Use
> > > > > > the 'dir' command to find the path to your own CD and make sure you
> > > > > > can dir it or the next step won't work!  Replies to your old posts in
> > > > > > the list try to help you with that and give examples, and you seem to
> > > > > > know alot of alternatives.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > (HINT: sd is the name of my SCSI bus where both the harddrive and my
> > > > > > cd drive are attached together, the @3 tells Open Firmware to use
> > > > > > device 3 (I think) which is the CD drive)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To boot the command type this:  'boot <yourpathhere>,\OFWBOOT.XCF;1
> > > > > > NETBSD.MACPPC;1'
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Don't use the apostraphes (' characters) of course and insert your own
> > > > > > path to your CD drive.  Make sure the OFWBOOT.XCF;1 and NETBSD.MAC;1
> > > > > > are EXACTLY the same as those two files you see when you DIR your new
> > > > > > CD.  Open Firmware is case sensitive and it needs the funky ; and 1
> > > > > > characters afterwards.  If all goes well you should get into the
> > > > > > NetBSD install menu.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Good luck!  Sorry for the late response.
> > > > > > -Justin
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 11/13/06, Marcos Onisto <mlonisto@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > Hello All,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > How can I do to create a Media Cd-rom only in a format "ISO9660" on
> > > > > > > Windows Operating System? Can someone know if there is a Freeware tool
> > > > > > > that do it? Because every media that I created on windows was in a
> > > > > > > format "Hybrid" and my Very OLD Mac 9500 / 132 can't recognize or boot
> > > > > > > them. I believe.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I appreciate some help.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks a lot.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Marcos
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 11/10/06, Marcos Onisto <mlonisto@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hello Justin,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Can you help me? How can i do one old ISO? If I only take these two
> > > > > > > > files ofwboot.xcf and netbsd.macppc and burning one Media Cd. Can I
> > > > > > > > boot of my Cd-rom? I need to install this SO on my box, it's issue of
> > > > > > > > honor.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I thank you help.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > regards,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Marcos
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 11/6/06, Marcos Onisto <mlonisto@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Hello Justin,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On the last weekend i made download of ISO's " 3.0 and 3.0.1 " to know
> > > > > > > > > whether my Media Cd-rom could be wrong, but i was deceive. After i
> > > > > > > > > burn my new Medias, i tried to test in many ways, but always got the
> > > > > > > > > same errors.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I confess that i was a little frustated with NetBSD documentation and
> > > > > > > > > bugs about boot firmware / cdrom and of floppy disks that didn't work,
> > > > > > > > >  i didn't pretend losting much time installing NetBSD on my box, i got
> > > > > > > > > to think that using a Mac OS X 10.3 Tiger is more easy.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I'm going to try the another possibility burning the ofwboot.xcf and
> > > > > > > > > netbsd.macppc on the cdrom, when i try this i tell you about the
> > > > > > > > > results. Thanks a lot.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > regards,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Marcos
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On 11/5/06, Justin Davis <jrcd83@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Hello Marcos,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I have installed NetBSD on my Power Macintosh 9600/300 a few months
> > > > > > > > > > ago.  I was never able to get the NetBSD install CD to boot properly.
> > > > > > > > > > When I did 'boot scsi-int/sd@3:0 NETBSD.MACPPC' as prescribed it would
> > > > > > > > > > just hang the system.  Apparently my open firmware does not like the
> > > > > > > > > > install CD, it can't dir anything on the CD either.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > However, if I burn OFWBOOT.XCF and a netbsd kernel to a plain-old
> > > > > > > > > > regular ISO CD, open firmware can dir the cd drive and boot the
> > > > > > > > > > OFWBOOT.XCF and NETBSD.MAC files!  But I was lazy and just boot off
> > > > > > > > > > the floppy disks because I did not want to make my own custom CD.  You
> > > > > > > > > > might see if a plain old ISO CD works with the dir and boot commands.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hope that helps... I spent alot of time struggling to get the install
> > > > > > > > > > cd to boot but never succeeded.
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