Subject: Re: Power Macintosh 9500 / 132
To: Justin Davis <jrcd83@gmail.com>
From: Marcos Onisto <mlonisto@gmail.com>
List: port-macppc
Date: 11/15/2006 14:21:48
Hello All,

I'm dont remember exactly the real worth of variables 'load-base and
real-base' , but I'll check out and try again.

This Media Cdrom that i made was created about the Official ISO
macppccd.iso, I didn't to do a Media Cdrom by myself yet. I'm only
used the macppccd.iso and the cdrecord tool on a linux Operanting
System.

I dont understand why the DIR command dont work on this Media that i
made about cdrecord. I dont know how the system know about these
files.

All Media Cd-rom that i made of Nero (hybrid or joilet) dont work,
It's only stop to response when i execute the boot command even when
the led is blinking or return me an any error.

Thanks about the link tools for Windows.

I'll try again and show you about results.

Thanks a lot,

Marcos


On 11/15/06, Justin Davis <jrcd83@gmail.com> wrote:
> I tried the boot command with the second argument (NETBSD.MACPPC or
> whatever) messed up on purpose and it gave me the "no active package"
> error.  Make sure that the names match up for the NETBSD... file.
> Remember, that file is the kernel (NETBSD-Install.gz) file that you
> renamed/moved to the root of the CD.  The names have to match exactly.
>  Joliet should be no problem.  Joliet/Rock Ridge CDs work on my system
> at least (it just ignores their long filenames).
>
> Just to repeat myself about your boot command:
> boot scsi/sd@4:, \OFWBOOT.XCF <HERE IS THE PROBLEM I THINK>
>
> The filename for the file after OFWBOOT.XCF must match exactly to what
> you created!
>
> show-children doesn't work for me.  I'm envious yours works at all ;)
> Oh and don't forget what michael said thats important too.
>
> Here are the free linux cdrtools for windows if you need them:
> http://www.geoshock.com/cdrtools <-- I got mine from here awhile ago
> http://smithii.com/?q=node/view/9 <-- another one I just found with google
>
> Good luck,
> Justin
>
> On 11/14/06, Justin Davis <jrcd83@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I guess the second stage is not loading?  The second stage is what the
> > NETBSD.MAC (or whatever you named it) file is for.  Make sure you use
> > the same filename as the second argument of the boot command that you
> > have burned onto the CD in the root folder.  When I get home I will
> > experiment with my machine and tell you my results.
> >
> > On 11/14/06, Marcos Onisto <mlonisto@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hello Justin,
> > >
> > > I have good news. I finally got to do some boots.......
> > >
> > > The last email I asked about tool for Windows because I didn't get to
> > > do my cdrecord to work on my FreeBSD, so my friend help to do it. I
> > > perceive that the results change when I boot only a ISO9660 Media
> > > Cd-rom.
> > >
> > > Even the results change, the DIR command dont work, but I show you
> > > below the results:
> > >
> > > Open Firmware, 1.0.5
> > > To continue booting the MacOS type:
> > > BYE<return>
> > > To continue booting from the default boot device type:
> > > BOOT<return>
> > >   ok
> > > 0 > dir scsi/sd@4  DIR method failed
> > >   ok
> > > 0 > dir scsi/sd@4:  DIR method failed
> > >   ok
> > > 0 > dir scsi/sd@4:0  DIR method failed
> > >   ok
> > > 0 > dir scsi/sd@4:0,  bad partition number, using 0DIR method failed
> > >   ok
> > > 0 > dir scsi/sd@4:0,\  bad partition number, using 0DIR method failed
> > >   ok
> > > 0 > dev scsi    ok
> > > 0 > show-children
> > > Target 0
> > >    Unit 0    Disk         QUANTUM FIREBALL ST3.2S 0F0C
> > > Target 2
> > >    Unit 0    Disk         QUANTUM FIREBALL ST3.2S 0F0C
> > > Target 4
> > >    Unit 0    Removable Read Only device    TOSHIBA CD-ROM  XM-4101TA0064
> > >   ok
> > > 0 > boot scsi/sd@4:0
> > > OF_open bootpath=scsi/sd@4
> > > read stage 2 blocks: 0. done!
> > > starting stage 2...
> > >
> > > >> NetBSD/macppc OpenFirmware Boot, Revision 1.10
> > > >> (builds@b0.netbsd.org, Wed Nov 1  01:51:32 UTC 2006)
> > > open /netbsd: Device not configured
> > > open /netbsd.gz: Device not configured
> > > 4471344-
> > >
> > > It's stop to work.
> > > I tried again:
> > >
> > > 0 > boot scsi/sd@4:0,\OFWBOOT.XCF NETBSD.MACPPC bad partition number, using 0
> > > OF_open bootpath=scsi/sd@4
> > > read stage 2 blocks: 0. done!
> > > starting stage 2...
> > >
> > > >> NetBSD/macppc OpenFirmware Boot, Revision 1.10
> > > >> (builds@b0.netbsd.org, Wed Nov 1  01:51:32 UTC 2006)
> > > no ative package4471344-
> > >
> > > It's stop to work.
> > > I tried again:
> > >
> > > 0 > boot scsi/sd@4:0,\OFWBOOT.XCF;1 NETBSD.MACPPC;1 bad partition
> > > number, using 0
> > > OF_open bootpath=scsi/sd@4
> > > read stage 2 blocks: 0. done!
> > > starting stage 2...
> > >
> > > >> NetBSD/macppc OpenFirmware Boot, Revision 1.10
> > > >> (builds@b0.netbsd.org, Wed Nov 1  01:51:32 UTC 2006)
> > > no ative package4471344-
> > >
> > > What does it "no ative package" mean? What is wrong?
> > >
> > > Another think that I perceive was my cdrom unit that came with this
> > > box. It's wrong because It's doesn't appear on the command
> > > 'show-children'.
> > >
> > > Well, the others Media Cdrom's dont work because the Nero Windows Tool
> > > burn It with the joilet option and this i can't change.
> > >
> > > Thanks Justin,
> > >
> > > Marcos
> > >
> > >
> > > On 11/14/06, Justin Davis <jrcd83@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Hi Marcos,
> > > >
> > > > First, make sure you have read the installation manual and understand
> > > > that you have an OLD (1.2 or something) version of Open Firmware.
> > > > Make sure you understand the commands.
> > > >
> > > > Okay, I just tried the method of burning my own plain ISO cd and got
> > > > to the install menu this way.  To make your own plain ISO CD simply
> > > > use whatever CD burning software you want and make a new cd, copying
> > > > all the files from the NetBSD Install CD to it.  Then, copy the files
> > > > OFWBOOT.XCF and NETBSD.INSTALL.gz to the root (top) directory (folder)
> > > > of this new CD.  (OFWBOOT.XCF is in the macppc/installation folder in
> > > > the NetBSD CD and NETBSD.INSTALL.gz is in the macppc/binary/kernel
> > > > folder).  Rename the NETBSD.INSTALL.gz now in the root (top) folder of
> > > > the CD to NETBSD.MAC to make things easier.  Now burn it!
> > > >
> > > > This isn't a hybrid CD it is just a normal CD.  You should be able to
> > > > see the files on your CD [on your mac] by using the 'dir' command from
> > > > Open Firmware.  On my machine the command that does this is 'dir
> > > > scsi-int/sd@3'.  Now, you may have a different path.  The
> > > > "scsi-int/sd@3" is the path to my CD, your path may be different!  Use
> > > > the 'dir' command to find the path to your own CD and make sure you
> > > > can dir it or the next step won't work!  Replies to your old posts in
> > > > the list try to help you with that and give examples, and you seem to
> > > > know alot of alternatives.
> > > >
> > > > (HINT: sd is the name of my SCSI bus where both the harddrive and my
> > > > cd drive are attached together, the @3 tells Open Firmware to use
> > > > device 3 (I think) which is the CD drive)
> > > >
> > > > To boot the command type this:  'boot <yourpathhere>,\OFWBOOT.XCF;1
> > > > NETBSD.MACPPC;1'
> > > >
> > > > Don't use the apostraphes (' characters) of course and insert your own
> > > > path to your CD drive.  Make sure the OFWBOOT.XCF;1 and NETBSD.MAC;1
> > > > are EXACTLY the same as those two files you see when you DIR your new
> > > > CD.  Open Firmware is case sensitive and it needs the funky ; and 1
> > > > characters afterwards.  If all goes well you should get into the
> > > > NetBSD install menu.
> > > >
> > > > Good luck!  Sorry for the late response.
> > > > -Justin
> > > >
> > > > On 11/13/06, Marcos Onisto <mlonisto@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Hello All,
> > > > >
> > > > > How can I do to create a Media Cd-rom only in a format "ISO9660" on
> > > > > Windows Operating System? Can someone know if there is a Freeware tool
> > > > > that do it? Because every media that I created on windows was in a
> > > > > format "Hybrid" and my Very OLD Mac 9500 / 132 can't recognize or boot
> > > > > them. I believe.
> > > > >
> > > > > I appreciate some help.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks a lot.
> > > > >
> > > > > Marcos
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 11/10/06, Marcos Onisto <mlonisto@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Hello Justin,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Can you help me? How can i do one old ISO? If I only take these two
> > > > > > files ofwboot.xcf and netbsd.macppc and burning one Media Cd. Can I
> > > > > > boot of my Cd-rom? I need to install this SO on my box, it's issue of
> > > > > > honor.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I thank you help.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > regards,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Marcos
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 11/6/06, Marcos Onisto <mlonisto@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > Hello Justin,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On the last weekend i made download of ISO's " 3.0 and 3.0.1 " to know
> > > > > > > whether my Media Cd-rom could be wrong, but i was deceive. After i
> > > > > > > burn my new Medias, i tried to test in many ways, but always got the
> > > > > > > same errors.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I confess that i was a little frustated with NetBSD documentation and
> > > > > > > bugs about boot firmware / cdrom and of floppy disks that didn't work,
> > > > > > >  i didn't pretend losting much time installing NetBSD on my box, i got
> > > > > > > to think that using a Mac OS X 10.3 Tiger is more easy.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm going to try the another possibility burning the ofwboot.xcf and
> > > > > > > netbsd.macppc on the cdrom, when i try this i tell you about the
> > > > > > > results. Thanks a lot.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > regards,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Marcos
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 11/5/06, Justin Davis <jrcd83@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hello Marcos,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I have installed NetBSD on my Power Macintosh 9600/300 a few months
> > > > > > > > ago.  I was never able to get the NetBSD install CD to boot properly.
> > > > > > > > When I did 'boot scsi-int/sd@3:0 NETBSD.MACPPC' as prescribed it would
> > > > > > > > just hang the system.  Apparently my open firmware does not like the
> > > > > > > > install CD, it can't dir anything on the CD either.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > However, if I burn OFWBOOT.XCF and a netbsd kernel to a plain-old
> > > > > > > > regular ISO CD, open firmware can dir the cd drive and boot the
> > > > > > > > OFWBOOT.XCF and NETBSD.MAC files!  But I was lazy and just boot off
> > > > > > > > the floppy disks because I did not want to make my own custom CD.  You
> > > > > > > > might see if a plain old ISO CD works with the dir and boot commands.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hope that helps... I spent alot of time struggling to get the install
> > > > > > > > cd to boot but never succeeded.
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