Subject: Re: Hi there - trouble with OpenFirmware ofwboot 2.4 (beige power
To: William Duke <wduke@cogeco.ca>
From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Christian_M=FCller?= <cmue81@gmx.de>
List: port-macppc
Date: 10/27/2005 12:38:00
Thx for answering William,


of course I do appreciate the work of the NetBSD volunteers - after all, 
that's why I want to set it up.  As for the floppies - tried all sorts 
of boot parameter combinations in OF and failed - I get a Default Catch, 
but I did apply SystemDisk, did not boot to MacOS 8.5.1 after that, did 
verify the floppies and tried a second time..

Yesterday, I made a first attempt at setting up netbooting from Knoppix 
3.8.1, no success - TFTP timeout (but it knows the machine where to look 
for ofwboot.xcf, hehe)

The most promising to me still is to boot of the cd, I've done a little 
more research on that.  The problem seems to be that after ofwboot.xcf 
is done loading it can't access the CD anymore for the kernel.  In OF 
2.4 I can do things like

dir ide1/@0:,\
dir ide1/@0:,\MACPPC\BINARY\KERNEL\

and it would give me the proper directory listings - with long filenames 
sufficed by ;1

setenv boot-device ide1/@0:,\OFWBOOT.XCF;1   seems to work alright 
(OpenFirmware Bootloader is found and executed with that)
setenv boot-file ide1/@0:,/NETBSD.MACPPC;1    however is probably not 
the way to go (tried all sorts of combinations wit back and forward 
slashes, with and without ;1 suffix, just using the path e.g. 
/NETBSD.MACPPC)

a person would probably need a way to inspect the system from the point 
where the NetBSD ofwboot.xcf has loaded <- it dooms to me that this is 
cdrom-access-wise not the same point I'm standing at in OpenFirmware.


So long,
Christian



William Duke schrieb:

>I don't know about the beige G3, but I was able to do a successfull install
>of 2.0.2 on my 7300/200 using the floppies.  It went really smooth and easy
>once I replaced my ethernet interface mc0 with vr0.
>
>I can sympathize with you on the documentation; I found it somewhat lacking
>myself.   I didn't find that it was misleading as much as I found that it
>appeared incomplete.   Some portions of the documentation require the user
>to do a lot of extrapolation and/or additional research from third sources.
>However, it is important to remember that it is volunteers that create this
>stuff for us, and we should be thankful that we even have anything.
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>Regards,
>
>William
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>>First of all,
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>>hello list =)
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>>I wanted to kindly ask, if someone was able to boot NetBSD Install of a
>>floppy or cdrom (not netboot) on the machine described in the subject
>>line.  I have read quite a bit of the available documentation (faq and
>>install) and found that it was (for this particular machine) a bit
>>misleading - I fiddled around for hours to get the partition zero
>>bootloader to work, no success - then I tried it ofw3-style (I believe,
>>as I do two stage boot and let the openfirmware find and boot
>>ofwboot.xcf from the filesystem on the install cd) with a bit of success:
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>>pretty handy in my mind:
>>dir ide1/disk@0:0
>>dir ide1/disk@0:0,\some\dir\you\want\a\listing\of
>>printenv
>>devalias
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>>what i do:
>>setenv boot-device ide1/disk@0:0,\OFWBOOT.XCF;1
>>setenv boot-file NETBSD.MACPPC;1
>>reset-all
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>>0 bootr
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>>what it does:
>>please take a look at my supplied "screenshots"
>>basically it loads >>NetBSD/macppc OpenFirmware Boot, Revision 1.10
>>then says >>no active package
>>+repeats >>Warning, unexpected short transfer 0/10240
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>>what i want it to do:
>>well, boot the NetBSD install cd
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>>thx for any insightful comment on this,
>>Christian
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