In message <CF70EB20-78A5-11D9-B735-000D93B85D1A@nosflow.com>, Michael Wolfson 
writes:
>On Feb 6, 2005, at 5:01 PM, Peter Seebach wrote:

>> I am being totally stumped.  I have found a whole bunch of different 
>> documents
>> which refer to versions at least as far back as 1.6.1, and I have not 
>> been
>> able to form a cohesive view of things.

>Huh?  None of the NetBSD-related documents released prior to Jan 2005 
>mention the Mini.  What's the confusing part that's within the scope of 
>documentation that can be fixed?

Well, it's all pre-Mini stuff, but I've been assuming it's like any other
OF3 system.

>> The Mini has a fairly recent version of Open Firmware.  My 
>> understanding
>> is that I should be able to access an Apple UFS filesytem from Open 
>> Firmware.

>Nope.  OpenFirmware doesn't support UFS, only netboot, MS-DOS, 
>ISO9660,, and "sector zero" bootloaders.  Open Firmware 3 systems also 
>support HFS/HFS+, but the "sector zero" bootloader doesn't seem to work 
>with the technique we use to create it on pre-OF3 systems.

Hmm.  Okay, so how does the Mac boot from a UFS root?  I know I had mine
doing that for a while.

>Make an HFS (non-plus) partition and use pkgsrc/sysutils/hfstools, or 
>muck around with ISO9660 or MS-DOS file systems.  No one who 
>understands the boot process has found enough time to get a better 
>bootloading system working.

Makes sense.

I may try to figure this out enough to contribute something, just because
I'm really confused.  But now I think I understand what I need to do, which
is use HFS+ for the boot partition, and either UFS or FFS for root... UFS
would let me copy files around under MacOS...  Okay, I think I get it.

It's made substantially more confusing by the Mini's tendency to boot to
what seem to me to be unpredictable and random partitions when I tell it
to mac-boot.

-s