Thank you for the reply.
But I did try just about everything you suggested, including the
drop to the shell and manually setting ifconfig and route.
I tried it probably 100 times, repeating old ways and trying new ones.  
Nothing seems to work :-{

What I may do is use the boot.fs (I'm using a floppy to get the install 
started) from 1.5.  I had 1.5 installed successfully prior to this, but 
then I swapped the hard drive and now when trying 1.5.2 I have no ftp 
luck.

I can burn a disk, I suppose.
I have no idea what the boot command would be to boot disk from the 
internal cdrom, though, and I recall giving up on that option after a 
day of frustration last time I tried it.

Compared to my laptop, a G3 Series 266mhz model, this is quite difficult 
and frustrating.  On the laptop, the install is as smooth as butter.

So I am close to giving up, but first I am going to try the 1.5 boot.fs 
and see if I can make that work.   When I get to the ftp part, after I 
get the network set up, I can just change the directory from 1.5 to 
1.5.2, I hope.  I think that should work.

If any of you gurus has any insight into how to properly install on one 
of  these Performas, I'd really appreciate it.

Many thanks,
Jeff

On Tuesday, November 13, 2001, at 12:22 AM, IvanK. wrote:

> Jeff,
>
> you just stumbled onto the same issue I had when installing 1.5.2 on a
> Performa6400.  Perhaps here's a good place to speculate that you 
> shouldn't
> have any problems running NetBSD on the 6360, since it's very similar 
> to the
> 6400.
>
> Now back to the unreachable nameserver/gateway thing.
>
> Back when I used to do 1.5 and 1.5.1 ftp installs, as long as my 
> cabling was
> done properly, I had absolutely no problem doing an ftp install.  This 
> all
> changed in 1.5.2, sadly.  I remember spending an entire night, I kid 
> you not,
> cursing at things when my linux box containing the installation files 
> could
> ping my performa6400, but the installer kept complaining about being 
> unable
> to ping the nameserver and/or the gateway.  I use the performa as a 
> gateway,
> so I've installed two PCI NICs - one cheap NE2000, ne0, and a Tulip 
> based
> Asante, tlp0.  On a side note,  the installer sees the tulip card as a 
> tlp0,
> but once booted, the os reports it as a de0.  Just be aware if that 
> interface
> doesn't work later.  Just move /etc/ifconfig.tlp0 to /etc/ifconfig.de0.
>
> My mac was hooked to the linux-running laptop via a serial cable,
> 8pin-to-25pin, a null modem, a gender changer, and a 25pn-to-9pin 
> converter.
> This is how I controlled the computer.  Then I had the tlp0 connected 
> to a
> hub, to which the laptop was also hooked.  Both were on the same subnet 
> so
> things should have been as simple as abc, but they weren't.  I then 
> hooked
> ne0 to the hub and tried the install over that interface.  Same failure.
> Then I tried setting the nameserver and the gateway to the IP of the mac
> itself, hoping that it should be able to ping itself and then get to the
> point where I can tell it where the installation media was.  That 
> didn't help
> either.  I tried leaving the nameserver and gateway fields empty.  No 
> luck.
> Then I backed off a few stages in the installer to the initial screen 
> with
> the option to configure the network.  Tried doing it from there.  No 
> help.
> Tried dropping to a shell and manually doing the ifconfig, route 
> thing.  I
> think I screwed up the route syntax (sorry, but my roots are in linux), 
> so
> that didn't do the trick.
>
> After hours of extremely excruciating failures of what used to be a 
> simple
> routine, I may have tried using a crossover cable to directly connect 
> the two
> machines.  I don't remember anything other than cursing the blasted 
> thing.
>
> Eventually, the thing gave up and just worked.  It might have had 
> something
> to do with the shaman I hired to do the "install-NetBSD" dance.  I may 
> never
> know, for I was too relieved and anxious to finish the install before 
> the
> thing started acting up again.
>
> Sorry I couldn't offer you more help in what must be trying times for 
> you,
> but when I saw your post, I felt like pouring out my own frustration.
>
> Anyway, do try any of the things I did and I sincerely hope you hit the 
> magic
> sequence.  Don't be discouraged, the magic is there, it's just darned 
> tough
> to guess.
>
> IvanK.
> (chepati)
>
> On Monday 12 November 2001 09:54 pm, Jeff Hergan wrote:
>> So, since the error was that my gateway or nameserver couldn't be
>> pinged, I went to my OS X box and did a ping on both.  No packet loss.
>> Both were able to be pinged.
>> Am I missing something here?
>> Is this a FAQ that I should have read or is it some weird bug that I've
>> stumbled across?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jeff
>>
>> On Monday, November 12, 2001, at 08:31 PM, Jeff Hergan wrote:
>>> OK.  I reinstalled OS9 on the laptop which I'm running ZTerm on now.
>>> I've made the serial connection to the Performa and the OpenFirmware
>>> output is not coming to the laptop from the Performa--good.
>>>
>>> I want to do an ftp install.
>>>
>>> But when I eneter the network settings, it keeps telling me that 
>>> either
>>> the nameserver or the gateway can't be reached by a ping.
>>>
>>> I am positive the network settings are correct.  I tried a secondary
>>> and tertiary nameserver.  That didn't work.
>>>
>>> The device for the network card is tlp0 and it's a Farralon card which
>>> has worked with earlier versions of NetBSD.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts on what might be wrong?
>>>
>>> Thanks for the input.
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>> On Monday, November 12, 2001, at 08:19 PM, Makoto Fujiwara wrote:
>>>> From: Jeff Hergan <jeff@praeclara.com>
>>>> Jeff> Is there a way to do the install from the NetBSD laptop machine
>>>> onto the
>>>> Jeff> Performa?
>>>>
>>>> There were issues.
>>>> (1) How to make serial connection from NetBSD.
>>>> (2) Does NetBSD run on Performa 6360 ?
>>>>
>>>> (1) is simple.
>>>>
>>>> Make sure /dev/tty0? and /usr/bin/cu permission.
>>>> Mine looks as following.
>>>> makoto@nazuha 11:16:08/011113(~)> ls -l /dev/tty0? /usr/bin/cu
>>>> crw-------  1 root  tty     12, 0 Nov 13 11:13 /dev/tty00
>>>> crw-------  1 uucp  wheel   12, 1 Nov 12 08:41 /dev/tty01
>>>> -r-sr-xr-x  1 uucp  wheel  141232 Jun 20 15:30 /usr/bin/cu*
>>>>
>>>> Issue following command.
>>>> cu -l /dev/tty01 -s 38400
>>>> (Speed and 01 are just an Example).
>>>>
>>>> (2) For 6360, sorry I don't have immediate answer with me now.
>>>> ---
>>>> Makoto Fujiwara
>>>> http://www.ki.nu/software/NetBSD/iBook2/
>>>> http://www.ki.nu/software/namazu/tutorial/
>
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