gr@eclipsed.net

>> Ah, I did indeed speak too fast.  I keep forgetting about the B&W G3
>> breakage.  I've got some of Bob's messages describing the
>> symptoms/workarounds that I need to integrate into the webpages/INSTALL
>> notes.
>
>But that's actually USB breakage, not ADB breakage? Or not?

I think it's both, at least that's what I see.  The ADB works thru the 
boot prompt but hangs when the system takes control to go single or 
multi-user.  Then if the USB keyboard is plugged in it works.  The USB 
works thru the boot prompt but won't work when the system goes single or 
multi-user; the only way it works is when it's plugged in _after_ the 
boot prompt sequence.

So the work-around I've found for the early B&W G3 is to boot up with 
only the ADB plugged in, diconnect the ADB and connect the USB when the 
login prompt (or single user prompt) appears.  At this point the USB is 
usable and the system is operational.

Obviously this doesn't work on systems like the iMac because it doesn't 
have ADB capability.

-bob