The mesh under 8600's is very unstable for me. Same hdd in a beige G3 works a treat. I can trace panics all day if you want me to :) regards, C. -- charlie@rubberduck.com Melbourne, Australia http://rubberduck.com/ PGP preferred F848 3B10 D181 E5EC 84CD 9CA2 7686 6210 FB54 66D1