Subject: Re: newbie 8500/180 w/o X Windows
To: Ian Page-Echols <pageecho@yahoo.com>
From: der Mouse <mouse@Rodents.Montreal.QC.CA>
List: port-macppc
Date: 02/10/2001 01:25:01
> Enter path name of shell or RETURN for sh:"

> After hitting return here, I don't seem to be able to do anything.
> I've tried ls, changing directories date, time, , whatever other
> simple unix commands I know or have looked through lists of.  All I
> seem to get in response is, for example "LS: not found".

Well, if you really do get "LS: not found", you probably need to turn
off capslock; there is no standard command called LS.

My first reaction is that you probably installed with a separate
partition for /usr, but that's not going to cause ls and cd to fail to
work; ls is not dependent on /usr (it's in /bin and is statically
linked, because it's a critical single-user tool) and cd is a shell
builtin.

If "cd /bin; echo *" doesn't produce a list of files, something like

[ cat chio chmod cp csh date dd df domainname echo ed expr hostname kill ksh ln ls mkdir mt mv pax ps pwd rcmd rcp rm rmail rmdir sh sleep stty sync test

then your install is borked somehow, probably pretty seriously, and you
will likely have to redo it.  If it's this badly damaged it's unlikely
that enough tools are in place to fix it up without going back to the
installation setup.

> Ok, did finally find that I could hit control d to get out of sh.
> But while I was in there I could do no normal commands I could find.
> Any ideas here?

Well, "mount /usr" might help, but as I said, enough critical commands
are in /bin that that shouldn't be necessary for *something* to work.

What does "cd /bin; echo *" produce?

					der Mouse

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