Changed the subject as per Allen Briggs indication :)

> on 12/18/00 6:45 PM, xephox@gmx.net at xephox@gmx.net wrote something
> like:
> 
> > In the meantime, I just wanted to know if I could ftp d/load
> > NetBSD and install from the zip on a 603e powerpc.  I have no
> > prior knowledge of the Macintosh with Unix (nor with Mac OS).
> 
>     Yes it is possible, if you had another UNIX machine that supported
> ffs and you could plug the ZIP drive into it. You might consider booting
> NetBSD with the boot floppy image.

Well, I've got FreeBSD on a PC, with a SCSI ZIP drive, but... no floppy
device (I think it's a problem with the m/board).  I was hoping to do 'dd'
copy the image to the zip disk.  Then, with a minimal installation I could
configure the internet services and go on ftp d/loading the rest.

> To get the sets there, you could FTP the sets onto an MSDOS FAT
formatted
> ZIP disk (be conscious of capitalization),

capitalization??  (I just try to avoid using Mac OS as much as PC DOS, if
I can use a zip disk formatted for ffs that will be great)

> then choose to install NetBSD from an unmounted file
> system. Make sure you have your SCSI termination set correctly and that
> the ZIP disk is in the drive and loaded before you boot NetBSD,
otherwise
> the kernel probably won't get the geometry information correct since I
> _think_ the ZIP identifies itself as a "removable hard drive". Also
watch
> the partition letters, I think MSDOS file systems are 'd' instead of 'e'
> like they are ({back/awk}wardly) on i386; that is if MSDOS mounting even
> works under macppc.

Umh.  First things first.  If I succeed with a minimal installation then
I'll be able to see how similar/different things are between a Unix on a PC
or a Mac.

See, I want to avoid Mac OS (I don't know how the system works, and I'd
rather not miss my time with it if I can help it), and I want to avoid DOS (I
don't have it installed anyway, and hope I won't have to).

I really want to learn a better h/w than PC's, and sparcs/alphas/hps/...
are hard (actually, in two words: IM POSSIBLE) to find second hand here (and
out of reach if new).  So, Mac seems to be the way.  I just wished it was as
easy to install as FreeBSD on PC, but may be things I'm not used to right
now (like openfirmware instead of bios) will pay off in the future.


Thank You.

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