Subject: Re: PowerBook Duo 230 (68030 -fpu)
To: Kazuyuki Inanaga <happyday@pp.iij4u.or.jp>
From: Bruce ONeel <edoneel@sdf.lonestar.org>
List: port-mac68k
Date: 02/18/2004 16:13:47
Hi,

I'll try to add the SMALLRAM kernel to my build.  Would you
like me to do a 1.6.1 build of the SMALLRAM kernel or 
would it be ok for me just to add this in the future?

Thanks!

cheers

bruce

Kazuyuki Inanaga <happyday@pp.iij4u.or.jp> wrote:
> Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 21:10:58 +0900
> From: Kazuyuki Inanaga <happyday@pp.iij4u.or.jp>
> Subject: Re: PowerBook Duo 230 (68030 -fpu)
> To: Bruce ONeel <edoneel@sdf.lonestar.org>
> Cc: port-mac68k@NetBSD.org
> content-length: 2344
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Thanks a lot for your reply, and also I appreciate your nice work:
> "Downloads/Prebuilt NetBSD 1.6.1 for LC040 Macs"
> http://edoneel.chaosnet.org/Downloads.html
> 
> It's running nicely on my PowerBook 520.
> 
> At 4:28 PM +0100 04.2.12, Bruce ONeel wrote:
> >
> >I have no idea.  I don't *think* I've done anything 040 specific
> >but I don't have anyway to test since my only 030 system
> >is a se/30 with a fpu (and too small a disks and no ethernet yet).
> >
> >If someone tests it I'm happy to update the page.  I didn't
> >specificly add netdock support.  I can if people would like.
> 
> Sounds Good !  I have several kind of FPU-less '030 Macs. Yes, I'm also
> happy if I could be a tester with others together.
> 
> 
> May I ask you my requests?
> I prefer "'030 specific kernel". Because, generally speaking, a '030 Mac
> has less memory. For example, Macintosh Classic II has 10MB RAM.
> Yes 10MB is maximum, I don't need a "fat" OS for my Classic II.
> Making a small kernel is a good idea for many FPU-less '030 Macs,
> don't you think so?
> 
> We have SMALLRAM in /usr/src/sys/arch/mac68k/conf.
> 
> >#	$NetBSD: SMALLRAM,v 1.8 2003/09/22 14:11:21 cl Exp $
> >#
> ># This is an example of how to configure a small, efficient kernel for a
> ># system with limited RAM. Even so it's capable of doing quite a bit. The
> ># hypothetical system used for this example is a Macintosh IIx or
> ># Macintosh IIcx with 8 MB of RAM and an 80 MB disk. One or more DP5380-
> ># based NuBus Ethernet cards and one or more NuBus video cards are
> ># configured, and basic PPP support is available. This configuration is
> ># suitable for experimenting with NetBSD as a router with one or more
> ># Ethernet cards, and up to two PPP connections (one on each serial port).
> 
> It's very useful to make own '030 specific kernel. I also appreciate
> to all for this nice work.
> 
> How about to include this idea to the "FPU-less '030 specific kernel" ?
> I also hope that Cabletron SCSI-Ethernet adapter and NetDock are fully
> supported with this specific kernel.
> And, it might be very nice to open the config file and a guide how to make.
> 
> 
> By the way, can we make *thin* userland for a small-RAM Mac?
> My Classic II ('030/16MHz, 10MB RAM, with FPU) takes more than
> 5 minutes for booting up. It's too much.   For example, I don't need
> a "fat" cryptograph ...  Is it a crazy idea to make *thin* userland?
> 
> Thanks,
> Kazu Inanaga