Subject: PPP, sup, life, the universe, and everything
To: None <port-mac68k@NetBSD.ORG>
From: Julian Bean <jules@mailbox.co.uk>
List: port-mac68k
Date: 02/14/1996 08:10:52
Yet again, it is I.

The problem I mailed this morning about missing man9 was very bizarre, but
turned out to be a not-completely extracted tar archive.  I re-extracted
the missing bits.

I have got PPP up and runnig with my ISP (at 19.2K over a 14.4K modem), but
I have some difficulty running it locally.

When I connect my LCIII/BSD to my PowerMac/MacOS7.5, I can establish a
connection all right, which is valid in so far as pings and simple TCP is
concerned (no DNS on the system, incidentally).  However when I try and FTP
a file from the PowerMac (pushing to the LCIII from the powermac end) I
only get (say) 60 or 100K in to the file and it crashes.  The underlying
protocols are all clearly working, since it manages to authenticate the
connection and so forth, and indeed create the file.

This is all at 19.2K - I couldn't get 57.6 to work.

I had been getting quite a few zs0a overruns, but they don't seem to stop
the PPP connection to my ISP from working.  Well, I haven't stress tested
it, but I managed to download supkit.tar.gz from ftp.netbsd.org w/o any
trouble, and I am currently supping.  This could take quite some time....

Does tty01 mean the printer port?  Could I have my LCIII dialed in to my
ISP, and my PowerMac dialed into the LCIII (yes, they all have static
addresses - I also administer the ISP's DNS, so I kinda decided I needed a
few static addresses).

All these serial errors, are, AFAIK, without the recent serial fixes, as
the kernel is jpw's original adbtest, dated Nov 28.

Incidentally, I am running sup as sup -v, since I wanted to see what it was
doing.  Is it slow because of the '-v', slow because it's the first time,
slow because of my ISP, or just always slow?  It seems to be processing
about a file every 2 seconds, and therefore it is looking like a few hours
to check the whole src tree (there are several thousand files in BSD,
aren't there?)  Should it be 'Updating' every single file (at least, at a
casual glance it seems to be all of them)?  Does 'Updating' simply mean
checking, as opposed to 'Receiving' which I have only seen for about 15
files so far?

OK.  I just wasted quite a bit of CPU time to dicover that there are almost
27000 files/folders in the BSD /usr/src hierarchy.  Mind you, since mine is
a 'compiled' hierarchy, around half of those are object files of one kind
or another.  even so, we are looking at 15000 files which is 4 hours at 1
file/sec.

In that time I could have half downloaded the whole tree (fully if I was at
work).  I hope this sup thing speeds up....

While I'm on the subject of sup, there is an 'unofficial' utility with it
which 'touch'es all sup'ed files so that just typing 'make' rebuilds all
changed stuff.  Why is this necessary?  Surely sup'ed files have their mod.
dates touched anyway, and a 'make' will automatically work?

Jules

P.S. Sorry about the long rambling email.  This is the trouble with having
my powermac off the 'net - I keep thinking of other things to ask before I
send.


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