Well Bill solved my ftp problem.  he was right about the shells file 
since I like tcsh better than csh I had tcsh as my startup shell so now 
that I added tcsh to my shells file I log in fine...

Thanks for all of the help... again...


Kirk Boston, RCDD
System Admin/JOAT
PGCPS... MY OPINIONS mine.  mine.  mine.
It's not the fall that kills you it's the sudden stop at the end...
Never apologise your friends don't need it and your enemies won't believe 
you anyway...