On Fri, Apr 23, 2004 at 06:36:54AM -0400, Alicia da Conceicao wrote:
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> Apr 23 00:47:57 luna sendmail[6690]: i3N4luB6006690: from=alicia, size=1071, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=<200404230447.i3N4luB6006690@luna.engine.ca>, relay=alicia@localhost
> Apr 23 00:47:57 luna sendmail[6690]: i3N4luB6006690: to=gnats-bugs@gnats.NetBSD.org, ctladdr=alicia (100/100), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=31071, relay=localhost.engine.ca. [127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Connection refused by localhost.engine.ca.
> Apr 23 01:11:21 luna sendmail[679]: i3N5BLl8000679: from=alicia, size=1357, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=<200404230511.i3N5BLl8000679@luna.engine.ca>, relay=alicia@localhost
> Apr 23 01:11:22 luna sendmail[679]: i3N5BLl8000679: to=gnats-bugs@gnats.NetBSD.org, ctladdr=alicia (100/100), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=relay, pri=31357, relay=localhost.engine.ca. [127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Connection refused by localhost.engine.ca.
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> So it looks like "send-pr" does try to use sendmail on my laptop,
> which *IS NOT A LAPTOP NOT A SERVER, NOR DO I WANT IT TO BE A SMTP
> SERVER*.  So these 2 "send-pr" messages, and a previous one I sent
> a couple of days ago are lost, and unfortunately, I have to retype
> them again from scratch.

You're confusing sendmail and a SMTP server.  Sendmail is also a
SMTP client, and can be configured to do only that part.

You might notice that it is called 'sendmail' and not
'receivemail'.  It because it's actually supposed to send mail.

The positive aspect of configuring sendmail as a simple client
is that, then you have no special configuration to do for any
other application.  You can simply point them to
/usr/sbin/sendmail, and usually it is the default.

Even more, sendmail handles the queueing, so if the configured
relay server isn't available immediately, sendmail will wait
patientely and try re-sending mail from time to time, and you
can even force it to so so by issueing 'sendmail -q'.

> Is there an alternative to "send-pr" for laptops, desktops, and
> embedded systems?  Maybe someone can put up a webpage form at
> "www.netbsd.org" to submit GNATS bugs?

There is already one.

http://www.netbsd.org/cgi-bin/sendpr.cgi?gndb=netbsd

Quentin Garnier.