Hi AFAIK, kdm/xdm uses ~/.xsession and not ~/.xinitrc to startup your session once you login. Do you have a ~/.xsession file? My way of doing it is to have startke in my ~/.xinitrc file to ensure I can run kde from a text login and then mv(1) the file to .xsession. BTW, I do an exec startdke as the last line in .xession. Hope it helps! --et