Subject: RE: Problem with Tecra 8100 docking station.
To: 'nathanw@MIT.EDU'" , "Neil J. McRae <neil@COLT.NET>
From: David Woyciesjes <DAW@yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu>
List: port-i386
Date: 10/18/2000 14:21:59
	Well, I'm not positive about the Toshiba Dock, but here's what I got
with my IBM TP760EL and IBM Dock Station II. There are VGA, COM1, LPT1:, and
external floppy ports on the back of the laptop. When I put it in the Dock,
those ports are (obviously) blocked. So there are VGA, COM, LPT1:, and
external floppy ports on the Dock to use instead. Including a HD-50 SCSI
connector, some phono audio connectors. There is also a SCSI bus in the Dock
for the SCSI CD-ROM, and a full size space for another SCSI device (burner,
tape drive, etc...), two ISA expansion card slots, and a second Type
I/II/III PCMCIA slot.
	So, like Nathan is leaning to, it's probably not a second ISA bus,
but merely an add-on or replacement that supposed to take control when the
laptop is in the dock? Like switching the laptop ports off, and redirecting
(of sorts) to the ports on the back of the dock? Does this make sense, or am
I just babbling?

	And FWIW, 1.4.2 on my 760EL seems to be fine in and out of the Dock,
if I recall correctly...

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-> -----Original Message-----
-> From: nathanw@MIT.EDU [mailto:nathanw@MIT.EDU]
-> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 12:57 PM
-> To: Neil J. McRae
-> Cc: David Brownlee; dme@dme.org; port-i386@netbsd.org;
-> thorpej@netbsd.org
-> Subject: Re: Problem with Tecra 8100 docking station.
-> 
-> 
-> <neil@colt.net> (Neil J. McRae) writes:
-> 
-> > pcib0 at pci0 dev 3 function 0
-> > pcib0: Toshiba America Info Systems product 0x0611 (rev. 0x51)
-> 
-> > pcib1 at pci0 dev 5 function 0
-> > pcib1: Intel 82371AB PCI-to-ISA Bridge (PIIX4) (rev. 0x02)
-> 
-> So, it would be (theoretically) possible to have multiple 
-> ISA buses on
-> a machine, if the PCI-ISA bridges did interesting range-translation. 
-> But I don't think that they do.
-> 
-> Much more likely, the pcib0 is part of a super-IO chip and isn't a
-> "full" ISA bus, but just has a number of internal direct-decode ISA
-> devices (the serial, parallel, keyboard, floppy and such). The pcib1
-> (the Intel part) has the "full" ISA bus bridge, which is doing
-> subtractive decode if none of the PCI devices (including the pcib0
-> super-IO chip) decode the address.
-> 
-> So there's only one ISA address space on a machine like 
-> this.  I think
-> the real problem with our code is that we assume that each pcib is
-> associated with a distinct ISA bus, when this isn't really 
-> true in the
-> PC universe.
-> 
->         - Nathan
->