that last GL seems to make problems with xf86 3.3.6. Text output is garbled, everything else seems to work. Any hints how to get it working? Go for X4? (NetBSD 1.5 ALPHA2 that is) --- /P=E5llen - http://www.astrakan.hig.se/~pollen telnet://mumindalen.astrakan.hig.se