Subject: RE: CDROM problems
To: Roger Brooks <R.S.Brooks@liverpool.ac.uk>
From: None <dbsaint@bellsouth.net>
List: port-i386
Date: 06/14/1999 14:51:51
Just to add some thought to your post :

I have a cdrom a 24 speed generic <wtf knows who made it > I have noticed that
in NetBSD 1.3.2 Ive had problems with it it would start making weird noises and
stop .. and restart .. and stop and restart ..finally locking the system and fo
rcing me to 'hit the switch' .I tried to fix this by giving the device a longer
timeout in the kernel, but that did not help, there was also some problems in
1.3.2 that If there was no cdrom in the drive on boot I was cdrom-less for that
session .. But If there was one in the drive I had a cdrom .. that worked most
of the time . Now in 1.4 atleast when the cdrom bugs out , the system does not
crash like it used to in 1.3.2 but it still acts funny. Now for my 'psuedo'
point. In the 2.0.x kernels in linux this cdrom works fantastic ! But when
2.2.x 's "uniform cdrom driver" came out the cdrom does the same stuff that it
does in NetBSD. I have no Idea what the "uniform cdrom driver" has to do with
anything but I know that It worked like a champ back in my linux days with
2.0.x kernels. thats my two cents .


Cheers


Tony Hernandez


On 15-Jun-99 Roger Brooks wrote:
> Having finally got round to upgrading my home machine to 1.4, I was a
> little disappointed to find that a problem with the CD-ROM drive which
> I'd encountered under 1.3.2 was still there.  I hadn't persued the problem
> before because I had applied the pciide code (and subsequent patches) to
> my 1.3.2 system, and thought it might be due to an incomplete or missing
> patch.
> 
> The symptom was that I could mount a CDROM and access the contents, but after
> a few reads the system would freeze.  Once frozen, I could switch screens
> in PCVT for a few seconds, and get into DDB (which didn't seem to show
> anything
> useful).  After a few seconds (or possibly after a few keypresses), the
> system
> would *really* freeze (couldn't switch screens or get into DDB).
> 
> This CDROM (Acer CD 632A) drive had always seemed to be a bit problematic
> under NetBSD.  When I first installed 1.3.2 (before applying the pciide
> code), it would usually find cd0 maybe once in every 4-6 boots, but this
> seemed to improve after installing the pciide code.  I'm not sure exactly
> at what stage the CDROM-related hangs started appearing.
> 
> While my home machine was still on 1.3.2 I wanted to install 1.4 on my
> recently- acquired laptop (Dell Latitude XPi P133ST) by nfs exporting the
> install CD. Again, I got system hangs.  In desperation, I tried building a
> kernel with pciide removed (forcing the controller to attach as wdc), but
> this made the CDROM metamorphose into a 68 MB ST506!  When I tried to pin
> it down by replacing wildcarded wd* and cd* entries in the config file
> with hardcoded addresses it woudn't attach at all.  The drive worked OK
> from MS-DOS, so in the end I copied the tar savesets to a DOS partition,
> mounted it under NetBSD and installed on the laptop from there.
> 
> The same problem with the CDROM hanging the system appeared when I started
> installing 1.4 on the desktop machine (this was using a 1.4_BETA 2-disk
> boot floppy set), so again I installed from the MS-DOS partition.  After
> building a 1.4 kernel, the problem was still there, so I decided to start
> playing with the I/O mode flags for the cd device.  Setting the flags to
> 0x0ff0 made the drive attach thus:
> 
> Jun 12 23:47:10 tallis /netbsd: cd0(pciide0:0:1): using PIO mode 4
> 
> but any attempt to access it resulted in errors:
> 
> Jun 13 00:15:01 tallis /netbsd: pciide0:0:1: lost interrupt
> Jun 13 00:15:01 tallis /netbsd:       type: atapi
> Jun 13 00:15:01 tallis /netbsd:       c_bcount: 32
> Jun 13 00:15:01 tallis /netbsd:       c_skip: 0
> Jun 13 00:15:01 tallis /netbsd: wdc_atapi_intr: unknown phase 0x2
> 
> (although this didn't hang the system).  Setting the cd I/O mode flags to
> 0x0f00 seems to have cured the problem.  So have I got a rogue CDROM and/or
> motherboard?  Apart from this problem the system is extrememly stable.
> Does anyone else have the same hardware (Epox EP-51 MVP3E motherboard, AMD
> K6-300), and if so have you seen similar problems?  Finally, would it perhaps
> be a good idea for the kernel on the install floppy to have UDMA disabled?
> If I hadn't been able to copy the install sets onto a DOS partition I'd have
> been completely stuffed.
> 
> Below is the messages file from my final configuration:
> 
> Jun 14 19:33:36 tallis /netbsd: NetBSD 1.4 (TALLIS) #2: Sun Jun 13 01:07:11
> BST 1999
> Jun 14 19:33:36 tallis /netbsd:    
> root@tallis:/usr2/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/TALLIS
> Jun 14 19:33:36 tallis /netbsd: cpu0: family 5 model 7 step 0
> Jun 14 19:33:36 tallis /netbsd: cpu0: AMD K6 (586-class)
> Jun 14 19:33:36 tallis /netbsd: real mem  = 66707456
> Jun 14 19:33:36 tallis /netbsd: avail mem = 58310656
> Jun 14 19:33:36 tallis /netbsd: using 839 buffers containing 3436544 bytes of
> memory
> Jun 14 19:33:36 tallis /netbsd: mainbus0 (root)
> Jun 14 19:33:36 tallis /netbsd: pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1
> Jun 14 19:33:36 tallis /netbsd: pci0: i/o enabled, memory enabled
> Jun 14 19:33:36 tallis /netbsd: pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0
> Jun 14 19:33:36 tallis /netbsd: pchb0: VIA Technologies VT82C598 (Apollo
> MVP3) Host-PCI (rev. 0x03)
> Jun 14 19:33:37 tallis /netbsd: ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0: VIA
> Technologies VT82C598 (Apollo MVP3) PCI-AGP (rev. 0x00)
> Jun 14 19:33:37 tallis /netbsd: pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
> Jun 14 19:33:37 tallis /netbsd: pci1: i/o enabled, memory enabled
> Jun 14 19:33:37 tallis /netbsd: Matrox MGA Millennium II 2164WA-B AG (VGA
> display) at pci1 dev 0 function 0 not configured
> Jun 14 19:33:37 tallis /netbsd: pcib0 at pci0 dev 7 function 0
> Jun 14 19:33:37 tallis /netbsd: pcib0: VIA Technologies VT82C586 (Apollo VP)
> PCI-ISA Bridge (rev. 0x41)
> Jun 14 19:33:37 tallis /netbsd: pciide0 at pci0 dev 7 function 1: VIA
> Technologies VT82C586A IDE Controller
> Jun 14 19:33:37 tallis /netbsd: pciide0: bus-master DMA support present
> Jun 14 19:33:37 tallis /netbsd: pciide0: primary channel configured to
> compatibility mode
> Jun 14 19:33:37 tallis /netbsd: atapibus0 at pciide0 channel 0
> Jun 14 19:33:37 tallis /netbsd: atapibus0 drive 1: cmdsz 0x0 drqtype 0x0
> Jun 14 19:33:37 tallis /netbsd: cd0 at atapibus0 drive 1: <ATAPI CD-ROM DRIVE
> 32X MAXIMUM, , 322P> type 5 cdrom removable
> Jun 14 19:33:37 tallis /netbsd: cd0: drive supports PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2,
> Ultra-DMA mode 2
> Jun 14 19:33:37 tallis /netbsd: wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: <FUJITSU
> MPB3043ATU E>
> Jun 14 19:33:37 tallis /netbsd: wd0: drive supports 16-sector pio transfers,
> lba addressing
> Jun 14 19:33:37 tallis /netbsd: wd0: 4125MB, 8940 cyl, 15 head, 63 sec, 512
> bytes/sect x 8448300 sectors
> Jun 14 19:33:37 tallis /netbsd: wd0: 32-bits data port
> Jun 14 19:33:37 tallis /netbsd: wd0: drive supports PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2,
> Ultra-DMA mode 2
> Jun 14 19:33:37 tallis /netbsd: pciide0: primary channel interrupting at irq
> 14
> Jun 14 19:33:37 tallis /netbsd: pciide0: secondary channel configured to
> compatibility mode
> Jun 14 19:33:37 tallis /netbsd: wd1 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0: <Maxtor
> 90845D4>
> Jun 14 19:33:37 tallis /netbsd: wd1: drive supports 16-sector pio transfers,
> lba addressing
> Jun 14 19:33:37 tallis /netbsd: wd1: 8063MB, 16383 cyl, 16 head, 63 sec, 512
> bytes/sect x 16514064 sectors
> Jun 14 19:33:37 tallis /netbsd: wd1: 32-bits data port
> Jun 14 19:33:37 tallis /netbsd: wd1: drive supports PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2,
> Ultra-DMA mode 2
> Jun 14 19:33:37 tallis /netbsd: pciide0: secondary channel interrupting at
> irq 15
> Jun 14 19:33:37 tallis /netbsd: wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA
> mode 2 (using DMA data transfers)
> Jun 14 19:33:37 tallis /netbsd: cd0(pciide0:0:1): using PIO mode 4, DMA mode
> 2 (using DMA data transfers)
> Jun 14 19:33:37 tallis /netbsd: wd1(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA
> mode 2 (using DMA data transfers)
> 
> 
> 
> Roger
> 
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