>What about su -m?

Ah! Someone (I believe you) suggested this earlier, and I never really 
attempted it. Yes, the su -m command *works* and a whoami shows me as 
logged in for that user. But the -m switch (to my recollection) doesn't 
read any of the files in target user's home dir...am I right?

So if a su -m works, what could be causing it to fail on normal su and on 
login?

Thanks for the help,

-- Josh Hope