Subject: Re: Info
To: None <email@example.com>
From: Jonathan Stone <jonathan@DSG.Stanford.EDU>
Date: 05/11/1998 15:47:20
Ted Lemon writes:
[David Maxwell wrote]
>> If Mark wants to state that he has better luck with FreeBSD on notebooks, I
>> don't want to see messages that say 'Don't talk about FreeBSD here, this
>> is a NetBSD mailing list'. I WANT to see 'In my experience, that's not true,
>> I have NetBSD running on lots of notebooks without trouble...'
>I disagree. If Mark wants to say "FreeBSD does the following specific
>thing better in the following specific way," or "FreeBSD has a feature
>NetBSD doesn't have", then that's fine. But a blanket statement like
>"FreeBSD has better PCMCIA support" is virtually content-free - what
>does that really tell us? In what way is it better? Messages like
>that really don't belong on NetBSD mailing lists, any more than a
>message on a FreeBSD mailing list saying "NetBSD does FOO better than
>FreeBSD" has any legitimate place there.
It tells us that Mark thinks it's better. It doesn't say why.
>Content-free feedback is not useful.
Here's some (spurious?) examples of useful feedback (I don't
know if any of them are true, and I'm not saying they are.
Personally, I dont know.)
* FreeBSD has better, easier, installation for PCMCIA-based
machines (PCMCIA scsi or network card) than NetBSD.
(OK, this one might well be true).
* FreeBSD has support for card XYZ which NetBSD doesn't yet support.
* FreeBSD has support for PCMCIA host chipset ABC which NetBSD
doesn't yet support.
* FreeBSD version X works out of the box on machine X with card Y,
and NetBSD doesn't work with card Y (but does with other cards)
* FreeBSD version X works out-of-the-box on machine X, and no
PCMCIA cards seem to work.
* FreeBSD version X has support for hot-swapping network cards, NetBSD
doesn't (or has inferior or incomplete support).
Comments like those (wehre true!) might be more useful feedback.
And I think "machine" should include a specific model number. Just saying
"ThinkPad" doesn't help much at all, since there's a very wide range
of chipsets, address-decode "features", and IRQ "features" in a given
vendor's product line.