On Thu, Dec 27, 2001 at 09:32:47AM -0500, der Mouse wrote:
> >>>> SuSE? SuSE???  [...]
> >>> Well now you see how desperate I am :)  I could have them sitting
> >>> in the closet running nothing!
> >> OpenVMS? OK, OK, OK. Just a joke. ;-)
> > OVMS is a nice OS.  And that is me, a Unix geek, saying so ;-)
> 
> And I, another UNIX geek, agreeing with you.  VMS is a strong second
> best; indeed, better in some respects (such as, as you point out,
> its security model).

8-)

> > Esp. the security model is much better.  Unix all-or-nothing root
> > privs suck.
> 
> Heh.  Can you say SETPRV?  Or BYPASS? :-)  [Yes, I know it's not really
> fair.  VMS has SETPRV and BYPASS, yes, but it also has finer-grained

PASSALL ??

> permissions which UNIX doesn't have...though some of them, it's not
> clear how to map into the UNIX model.  For example, TMPMBX would most
> naturally map into the right to use pipe(), or perhaps
> socketpair(AF_LOCAL) - but can you _imagine_ how crippling not having
> that would be on UNIX?]

Sure, but some [l]users deserve nothing but a crippled sh..

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