Date:        Sun, 5 Nov 2000 01:25:56 +1100
    From:        "Crossfire" <xfire@xware.cx>
    Message-ID:  <002701c0466b$25b46c00$1502a8c0@home.xware.cx>

  | Oh, and furthermore, ORBS RBL are also inadvisable due to their draconian
  | and inappropriate handling of Australian ISPs which would result in all of
  | .au's dialup and ISP populous not being able to post.

Including me (though some may think that a good thing...)

ORBS doesn't like me because I won't let them (even attempt to)
relay mail through my mailer (they're filtered away from my nets).

Hence I am a "bad guy" and people who use ORBS don't get mail from
me.   Greg Woods claims I lose by that - I don't, it is the people
dumb enough to use ORBS who are missing out on receiving my delightful
messages ... :-)

kre