Re: firefox dumping core after NetBSD upgrade

[Chavdar Ivanov <ci4ic4%gmail.com@localhost>]

I just did a quick comparison on a 9.99.16 amd64 VirtualBox guest
between firefox 69.0.2 and the latest versions of epiphany and midori.
All of them seem to work reasonably well, but firefox is the most
usable, in terms of reaction to clicks, updates and overall behaviour.
I tried Google maps with StreetView, they worked for me on all three
browsers, again with the subjective feeling that firefox is the
fastest. For some reason epiphany was able to create the GL context
and run the WebGL demos, though (some months ago all three were able
to do this under VirtualBox of the time, now this doesn't seem to work
as well; BTW Oracle is taking out the 3D acceleration option for
VBoxVGA from the next - 6.1 - release, so if one wants to use it, one
has to switch to VMSVGA, which still supports it, but then the mouse
jumps by about ten pixels, but I digress).

Anyway, the point is that the extended functionality, defined by some
as 'bloatness', doesn't always mean slow execution. Also, while I am
aware about the differences of opinions about rust, the fact remains
that since rust started to run well on NetBSD and a substantial part
of firefox was rewritten in that language, the result has been much
better reliability of the browser.

On Sat, 12 Oct 2019 at 12:17, <maya%netbsd.org@localhost> wrote:
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> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 10:49:58AM +0100, Robert Swindells wrote:
> >
> > maya%NetBSD.org@localhost wrote:
> > >On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 08:41:49AM +0100, Sad Clouds wrote:
> > >> On Fri, 11 Oct 2019 11:05:57 -0700
> > >> bch <brad.harder%gmail.com@localhost> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > I quit running Firefox on my (-current) laptop months ago because the
> > >> > build process (rust, esp) was so brutal. Have there been any
> > >> > community efforts to organize the build artifacts from bleeding-edge
> > >> > environments to avoid repeating (and failing, in my case) this most
> > >> > horrible build?
> > >>
> > >> What's the alternative, I've not used NetBSD for desktop tasks for a
> > >> while now, but I wish recent Opera browser was available for NetBSD. I
> > >> suppose you could run it with Linux emulation, but not sure how well it
> > >> works on NetBSD. Last time I tried, which was years ago, there were
> > >> some display issues, i.e. scrolling text up/down would produce these
> > >> annoying lagging artefacts, etc.
> > >
> > >Firefox works great. The discussion here isn't about firefox being
> > >broken on netbsd, it's being broken across an update. That usually
> > >happens due to some kind of binary incompatibility being introduced.
> >
> > I'm not sure this is down to a binary incompatibility.
> >
> > I started seeing the same thing recently too even when Firefox and all
> > its dependencies have been rebuilt from source.
> >
> > Google Maps triggers it for me.
>
> You've also stated that glxgears crashes, so it might be the same
> problem.  Are you building netbsd in a special way?



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