Subject: Re: Starting firefox & thunderbird
To: Geert Hendrickx <>
From: Jan Danielsson <>
List: pkgsrc-users
Date: 06/25/2007 20:13:36
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Geert Hendrickx wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 25, 2007 at 05:03:33AM +0200, Jan Danielsson wrote:
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>> Hello all,
>>    Running NetBSD/amd64 3.1, pkgsrc-current..
>>    A few days ago, I performed a few updates to my packages. Now,
>> Firefox and Thunderbird are behaving flaky at startup. I'd guess about
>> half of the time I try to start them, they simply don't show up. The
>> processes are running, but I get no visual window.
>>    The processes are easily killed (no -9 required), but it's quite
>> annoying having to go through the hassle..
>>    It may just have been bad luck, but when I had GIMP running, it was
>> almost impossible to start Thunderbird.
>>    This all happened with the updates, afaict. I had no problems
>> prior to the update.
> Do they generate any output when started from an xterm?

   No -- I just tried several times, and no output any of the times it
"hung". I'm beginning to wonder if it may have something to do with
another problem I have been having, though this one has persisted for as
long as I can remember..

   If I start firefox, and browse a few sites (particularly sites with
rather large images), then I can't start mplayer unless the movie is
very small (resolution-wise). If I have used firefox heavily, then I
sometimes I can't even start mplayer. If thunderbird is running, the
problem gets worse, but only slightly. If I shut down firefox and
thunderbird, I can run mplayer again without any problems. GIMP is also
another variable which appears to affect the problem, but like
thunderbird -- it appears to be minor.

   It has happened, though it's extremely rare, that even though I shut
down firefox, that mplayer won't behave. In these extreme cases, I need
to shut down X and restart it. When I do, all is fine again.

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Kind regards,
Jan Danielsson

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