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pkgsrc-2012Q2 NetBSD 4.0.1/i386 2012-08-23 22:28
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Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 14:00:09 +0000 (UTC)
From: Charlie Root <pkgbuild%i386-nb4.netbsd.org@localhost>
Subject: pkgsrc-2012Q2 NetBSD 4.0.1/i386 2012-08-23 22:28
To: pkgbuild%netbsd.org@localhost
pkgsrc bulk build report
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NetBSD 4.0.1/i386
Compiler: gcc
Build start: 2012-08-23 22:28
Build end: 2012-08-25 13:10
Full report:
http://nyftp.netbsd.org/pub/pkgsrc/packages/reports/2012Q2/NetBSD-4.0.1-i386/20120823.2228/meta/report.html
Machine readable version:
http://nyftp.netbsd.org/pub/pkgsrc/packages/reports/2012Q2/NetBSD-4.0.1-i386/20120823.2228/meta/report.bz2
Total number of packages: 11001
Successfully built: 9888
Failed to build: 274
Depending on failed package: 471
Explicitly broken or masked: 285
Depending on masked package: 83
Packages breaking the most other packages
Package Breaks Maintainer
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x11/qt4-libs 193 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
print/cups 86 sbd%NetBSD.org@localhost
math/R 51 markd%NetBSD.org@localhost
security/py-OpenSSL 35 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
multimedia/xine-lib 33 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
lang/pear 33 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
graphics/evas 17 joerg%NetBSD.org@localhost
x11/gnustep-gui 16 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
www/webkit-gtk 12 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
graphics/gnuplot 11 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
Build failures
Package Breaks Maintainer
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
archivers/ark markd%NetBSD.org@localhost
archivers/php-bz2 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
php54-bz2-5.4.5 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
archivers/php-zip 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
php54-zip-5.4.5 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
archivers/php-zlib 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
php54-zlib-5.4.5 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
audio/amarok pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
audio/gimmix pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
audio/gst-buzztard 2 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
audio/libsmf 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
audio/libvisual0.2-plugins pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
benchmarks/libmicro pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
biology/gnome-chemistry-utils pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
biology/py-mol pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
cad/magic pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
cad/pcb dmcmahill%NetBSD.org@localhost
chat/msn-pecan pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
chat/telepathy-gabble pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
converters/libcdr ftigeot%wolfpond.org@localhost
converters/php-iconv 4 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
php54-iconv-5.4.5 4 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
converters/php-mbstring 3 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
php54-mbstring-5.4.5 3 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
cross/i386-cygwin32 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
cross/i386-linux pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
cross/i386-msdosdjgpp pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
databases/php-dba 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
php54-dba-5.4.5 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
databases/php-dbx pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
php54-dbx-1.1.2 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
databases/php-ldap 2 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
php54-ldap-5.4.5 2 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
databases/php-mssql 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
php54-mssql-5.4.5 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
databases/php-mysql 5 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
php54-mysql-5.4.5 5 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
databases/php-mysqli 4 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
php54-mysqli-5.4.5 4 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
databases/php-pdo 6 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
php54-pdo-5.4.5 6 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
databases/php-pgsql 2 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
php54-pgsql-5.4.5 2 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
databases/php-redis pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
php54-redis-2.1.3 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
databases/sqlrelay pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
databases/tokyotyrant obache%NetBSD.org@localhost
devel/SOPE 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
devel/bullet pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
devel/cvsup motoyuki%bsdclub.org@localhost
devel/cvsup-gui motoyuki%bsdclub.org@localhost
devel/elftoolchain agc%NetBSD.org@localhost
devel/kdiff3 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
devel/kyua-cli jmmv%NetBSD.org@localhost
devel/libpgm agc%NetBSD.org@localhost
devel/libthrift 1 tonnerre%NetBSD.org@localhost
devel/libview pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
devel/libxenserver sborrill%NetBSD.org@localhost
devel/mico tonnerre%NetBSD.org@localhost
devel/ocaml-lwt jaapb%kerguelen.org@localhost
devel/pcc-libs pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
devel/php-gettext 2 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
php54-gettext-5.4.5 2 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
devel/php-gmp 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
php54-gmp-5.4.5 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
devel/php-memcache pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
php54-memcache-2.2.6 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
devel/php-pcntl 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
php54-pcntl-5.4.5 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
devel/php-posix 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
php54-posix-5.4.5 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
devel/php-shmop 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
php54-shmop-5.4.5 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
devel/php-sysvmsg 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
php54-sysvmsg-5.4.5 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
devel/php-sysvsem 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
php54-sysvsem-5.4.5 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
devel/php-sysvshm 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
php54-sysvshm-5.4.5 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
devel/py-sysctl cherry%zyx.in@localhost
devel/sdcc 5 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
devel/sfslite agc%NetBSD.org@localhost
devel/stlport pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
devel/valide pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
devel/xsd pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
devel/xulrunner 5 tnn%NetBSD.org@localhost
devel/xulrunner10 1 tnn%NetBSD.org@localhost
editors/emacs-packages uebayasi%NetBSD.org@localhost
editors/medit obache%NetBSD.org@localhost
editors/mule pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
editors/xemacs hauke%NetBSD.org@localhost
editors/xemacs-current pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
emulators/aranym pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
emulators/generator pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
emulators/generator-cbiere pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
emulators/hercules pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
emulators/mame wiz%NetBSD.org@localhost
emulators/mess wiz%NetBSD.org@localhost
emulators/raine pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
emulators/ski cherry%zyx.in@localhost
emulators/ski-bin skrll%NetBSD.org@localhost
emulators/vice rhialto%falu.nl@localhost
emulators/wine-devel 1 adam%NetBSD.org@localhost
filesystems/perfuse 3 manu%NetBSD.org@localhost
fonts/ricty-ttf ryoon%NetBSD.org@localhost
games/ccgo pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
games/crafty-book-medium pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
games/crafty-book-small pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
games/heretic2-demo abs%NetBSD.org@localhost
games/hugo dillo%NetBSD.org@localhost
games/marathon-trilogy
christtrekker%users.sourceforge.net@localhost
games/openmortal pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
games/quake3server-excessive david%silicium.ath.cx@localhost
games/quake3server-ra3 david%silicium.ath.cx@localhost
games/quake3server-ut david%silicium.ath.cx@localhost
games/six pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
games/wxhugo dillo%NetBSD.org@localhost
games/xbat pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
geography/proj-swig gdt%NetBSD.org@localhost
graphics/asymptote pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
graphics/blender pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
graphics/cnxtview pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
graphics/cpia2view pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
graphics/cqcam pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
graphics/enblend-enfuse 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
graphics/evas 17 joerg%NetBSD.org@localhost
graphics/f-spot pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
graphics/fotoxx pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
graphics/gimmage reed%reedmedia.net@localhost
graphics/gimp-color-manager pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
graphics/gimp-exif-browser pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
graphics/gimp-refocus-it pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
graphics/gnuplot 11 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
graphics/gource ryoon%NetBSD.org@localhost
graphics/gwenview markd%NetBSD.org@localhost
graphics/libjpeg-turbo dsainty%NetBSD.org@localhost
graphics/ns-cult3d abs%NetBSD.org@localhost
graphics/openjpeg 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
graphics/php-exif 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
php54-exif-5.4.5 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
graphics/php-gd 8 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
php54-gd-5.4.5 8 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
graphics/unicap 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
inputmethod/tegaki-wagomu obache%NetBSD.org@localhost
lang/chicken asau%inbox.ru@localhost
lang/clang adam.hoka%gmail.com@localhost
lang/gcc pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
lang/gcc47 3 sbd%NetBSD.org@localhost
lang/kali pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
lang/pear 33 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
php54-pear-1.9.4nb3 33 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
lang/pfe asau%inbox.ru@localhost
lang/picoc agc%NetBSD.org@localhost
lang/pnetC pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
lang/py-psyco pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
py27-psyco-1.6nb1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
lang/racket asau%inbox.ru@localhost
lang/racket-textual asau%inbox.ru@localhost
lang/spl pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
lang/squeak-vm 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
lang/sun-jre6 3 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
lang/twelf
richards+netbsd%CS.Princeton.EDU@localhost
mail/cone pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
mail/courier-mta 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
mail/php-imap 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
php54-imap-5.4.5 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
mail/thunderbird 1 tnn%NetBSD.org@localhost
mail/thunderbird10 tnn%NetBSD.org@localhost
math/R 51 markd%NetBSD.org@localhost
math/fityk pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
math/itpp agc%NetBSD.org@localhost
math/php-bcmath 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
php54-bcmath-5.4.5 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
math/pspp pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
math/scilab 2 dmcmahill%NetBSD.org@localhost
mbone/vic-devel sborrill%NetBSD.org@localhost
meta-pkgs/kde4 markd%NetBSD.org@localhost
misc/dnetc shaun%inerd.com@localhost
misc/dpkg pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
misc/gelemental pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
misc/hanzim rxg%NetBSD.org@localhost
misc/molden pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
misc/root drochner%NetBSD.org@localhost
misc/teseq pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
multimedia/avidemux pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
multimedia/bsdav pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
multimedia/dvb-apps pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
multimedia/fuppes
tech-multimedia%NetBSD.org@localhost
multimedia/gst-plugins0.10-ffmpeg 2 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
multimedia/libva 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
multimedia/php-ming obache%NetBSD.org@localhost
php54-ming-0.4.4 obache%NetBSD.org@localhost
multimedia/schroedinger pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
multimedia/tvtime pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
multimedia/vlc08 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
multimedia/vls pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
multimedia/xine-lib 33 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
net/DarwinStreamingServer adam%NetBSD.org@localhost
net/citrix_ica sborrill%NetBSD.org@localhost
net/coda gdt%NetBSD.org@localhost
net/dcsharp pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
net/kdenetwork4 markd%NetBSD.org@localhost
net/kftpgrabber markd%NetBSD.org@localhost
net/kismet pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
net/mppe-lkm pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
net/netbsd-iscsi-initiator sborrill%NetBSD.org@localhost
net/openafs gendalia%NetBSD.org@localhost
net/openwbem pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
net/php-ftp 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
php54-ftp-5.4.5 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
net/php-geoip pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
php54-geoip-1.0.8 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
net/php-snmp 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
php54-snmp-5.4.5 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
net/php-soap 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
php54-soap-5.4.5 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
net/php-sockets 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
php54-sockets-5.4.5 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
net/php-xmlrpc 2 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
php54-xmlrpc-5.4.5 2 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
net/php-yaz pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
php54-yaz-1.1.1nb2 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
net/wpa_supplicant reed%reedmedia.net@localhost
news/newsx pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
parallel/hwloc 1 asau%inbox.ru@localhost
parallel/mpi-ch 6 asau%inbox.ru@localhost
parallel/openmpi asau%inbox.ru@localhost
parallel/threadingbuildingblocks asau%inbox.ru@localhost
pkgtools/bootstrap-mk-files 10 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
print/advi pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
print/cups 86 sbd%NetBSD.org@localhost
print/libgxps pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
print/pdf2djvu ryoon%NetBSD.org@localhost
print/php-pdflib pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
php54-pdflib-2.1.8nb2 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
print/psify kim%tac.nyc.ny.us@localhost
print/tex-bagpipetex dgriffi%cs.csubak.edu@localhost
security/cy2-gssapi obache%NetBSD.org@localhost
security/f-prot-antivirus6-fs-bin taca%NetBSD.org@localhost
security/f-prot-antivirus6-ms-bin taca%NetBSD.org@localhost
security/f-prot-antivirus6-ws-bin taca%NetBSD.org@localhost
security/gsasl 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
security/heimdal pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
security/knc schmonz%NetBSD.org@localhost
security/munge 1 asau%inbox.ru@localhost
security/pam-krb5 pettai%NetBSD.org@localhost
security/pam-p11 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
security/php-mcrypt 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
php54-mcrypt-5.4.5 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
security/py-OpenSSL 35 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
security/validns pettai%NetBSD.org@localhost
sysutils/aperture pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
sysutils/conky imil%NetBSD.org@localhost
sysutils/k4dirstat markd%NetBSD.org@localhost
sysutils/libvirt agc%NetBSD.org@localhost
sysutils/nvnet pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
sysutils/p5-Sys-Filesystem pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
sysutils/storage-manager pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
sysutils/strace christos%NetBSD.org@localhost
textproc/convertlit 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
textproc/db2latex minskim%NetBSD.org@localhost
textproc/link-grammar pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
textproc/php-dom 2 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
php54-dom-5.4.5 2 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
textproc/php-enchant 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
php54-enchant-5.4.5 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
textproc/php-intl 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
php54-intl-5.4.5 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
textproc/php-json 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
php54-json-5.4.5 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
textproc/php-mecab taca%NetBSD.org@localhost
php54-mecab-0.5.0 taca%NetBSD.org@localhost
textproc/php-pspell 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
php54-pspell-5.4.5 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
textproc/php-wddx 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
php54-wddx-5.4.5 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
textproc/tcl-expat pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
textproc/xmltooling 2 pettai%NetBSD.org@localhost
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php54-calendar-5.4.5 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
wm/pekwm gls%NetBSD.org@localhost
www/ap-auth-kerb markd%NetBSD.org@localhost
www/ap-php 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
ap22-php54-5.4.5 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
ap2-php54-5.4.5 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
ap13-php54-5.4.5 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
ap24-php54-5.4.5 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
www/mserv-php abs%absd.org@localhost
www/nvu pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
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php54-apc-3.1.10 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
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php54-curl-5.4.5 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
www/php-fpm 1 filip%joyent.com@localhost
php54-fpm-5.4.5 1 filip%joyent.com@localhost
www/php-phrasea2 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
php54-phrasea2-3.1.4 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
www/php-tidy 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
php54-tidy-5.4.5 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
www/php-uploadprogress mbowie%buzmo.com@localhost
php54-uploadprogress-1.0.1 mbowie%buzmo.com@localhost
www/py-uwsgi joerg%NetBSD.org@localhost
www/seamonkey tnn%NetBSD.org@localhost
www/varnish pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
www/webkit-gtk 12 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
www/webkit-gtk3 8 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
x11/clisp-new-clx hans%netbsd.org@localhost
x11/gnustep-gui 16 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
x11/grandr_applet pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
x11/gtkmm-utils pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
x11/konsole markd%NetBSD.org@localhost
x11/labltk adam%NetBSD.org@localhost
x11/libxdg-basedir pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
x11/openbsd-input-ws pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
x11/qt4-libs 193 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
x11/wxhaskell pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
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