Subject: Re: OT: webserver comparsion
To: admin@datazap.net <admin@datazap.net>
From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Timo_Sch=F6ler?= <timo.schoeler@macfinity.net>
List: netbsd-help
Date: 09/21/2004 21:31:52
hi,

> I was just wondering, because I have gotten almost the same results =
for
> really old non-pc systems, like a sparc station 20 or a 50 mhz 68060
> system, and say a low end PIII. I just was wondering if my data could
> somehow be flawed.
>

same here:

SPARCstation 20MP (two SuperSPARC II 75 w/SuperCache of 1MByte) -- fast

Amiga 1200 with 68040 Turboboard -- runs imap, smtp, dns, webserver=20
(static html), ldap... -- fast

Amiga 1200 with 68060 Turboboard and big scsi subsystem at a friends'=20
site -- blazingly fast :)

> I have been looking at buying a new server, and because of the result=20=

> that
> I have gotten from my own testing Sun and Motorola based systems seems=20=

> to
> outperform other comparative systems in serving web pages. So, I think
> that I am looking for one of the 2. The problem that I have right now,=20=

> is
> my server takes a too long to resize images.
>
> Thanks,
> Al

Sounds as a good job for a Power Mac G4, preferrably a Dual Machine=20
(the early 450 and 500MHz machines are very nice, but the newer ones=20
have a wholabigga L3 cache of 2Mytes per CPU :)) -- you can get them=20
relatively cheap.

>
> On Thu, 16 Sep 2004, [ISO-8859-1] Timo Sch=F6ler wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I was wondering if anyone had any real world data on powerpc systems
>>> and/or suns (Of course, running netbsd). I could look up how many
>>> instructions per second each cpu is capable of, but what I would=20
>>> really
>>> like to see is something like how many hits a second they can take,=20=

>>> or
>>> how
>>> fast they compile userland. This is data I just can't seem to find,=20=

>>> and
>>> was hoping that someone here would have, and be willing to share.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Al
>>
>> hi al,
>>
>> there are several issues to take care of in this topic.
>>
>> first, SPARC-based systems (and, furthermore, sgi machines,
>> unfortunately NetBSD's support for these is not that well as it is =
for
>> sparc/sparc64) are well known for the high throughput they provide
>> (i.e. mostly in comparison to x86-based stuff).
>>
>> that is, static websites are delivered very fast, even if you have a
>> 'relatively slow' machine (read: Ultra 1 or even SPARCstation, from
>> 20MP down to the SS4). if you make heavy use of PHP, Perl et al. you
>> will discover that you need a somewhat faster machine. IIRC sparc64's
>> MP support is in the works but not finished yet.
>>
>> here PowerPC comes up (if you don't have very fast USII/USIIi =
machines
>> handy) because you can i) use the newest systems (e.g. Xserve G5) and
>> ii) it is SMP-ready.
>>
>> on PowerPC throughput is also more than good (IMHO -- a 400MHz Power
>> Mac G4 seems lots faster using *one* CPU than the dual PIII/500
>> IntelliStation i compared it to)...
>>
>> furthermore and as my last paragraph ;) i'd like to say that it's
>> surely best for you to run your own benchmarks on the machine(s) you
>> have available, compare them (i.e. the results) against your needs =
and
>> go for the winner ;)
>>
>> HTH
>>
--=20
mit vorzueglichster Hochachtung/best regards,

Timo Schoeler
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