Subject: RE: Detecting a closed circuit
To: None <netbsd-help@netbsd.org>
From: Rose, Brian <Brian.Rose@icn.siemens.com>
List: netbsd-help
Date: 12/06/2002 04:27:38
DTR is the Data Terminal Ready signal. Some telecom equipment use the
acronym DTR to mean DialTone and Ringing. This is a circuit that provides
the dialtone and ringing signals over an analog phone line.
This is not a function of an RS-232 port. There are no tones on RS-232
lines. Just binary signals.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gan Uesli Starling [mailto:alias@starling.us]
> Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 7:08 AM
> To: netbsd-help@netbsd.org
> Subject: Re: Detecting a closed circuit
>
>
> James K. Lowden writes:
>
> > I think this would work for two machines. In terms of
> RS-232, assuming
> > these machines are within 100 feet of each other, I don't
> see any reason
> > you couldn't tie their DTRs together and their CDs
> together, and bridge
> > them both with the same close-on-battery curcuit.
> >
> > It looks easy from here, but I never did any such thing.
> And, see, no
> > relay. :)
> >
> > --jkl
>
> This seems is a good idea...except for one tiny thing...
> the part about multiple machines on a single contact.
>
> I am a little fuzzy on this...but I do not think you should
> wire a pair of DTR lines together. If memory serves, DTR
> supplies a tone, yes?
>
> So...they are little generators. What are the chances
> that any two would be in phase? I think they might oppose
> one another. And if they chanced to be 180 degrees out of
> phase...that could be bad, yes?
>
> You might be able to get away with one DTR fanning out to
> two or more CD inputs. But there is a limit on fan-out...I
> do not know what that limit is.
>
> Or you could just do like James said with the CD and DTR
> lines, but separately, not joined. Then get somebody to
> multiply in parallel the contact closure with opto-isolators
> from Radio Shack. (Chances are the contact closure in the
> UPS is just power opto-isolator anyway.)
>
> The opto-isolator circuit would require some power. But not
> much...a trifle. But that too could be gotten from Radio
> Shack. Any tech in possession of a soldering iron ought to
> be able to puzzle that one out.
>
> Once you have it going. Send me the specs and I will happily
> post it, schematic and all, for others to follow. Send that to
> gan@starling.us if you so choose.
>
> Enjoy,
>
> Gan Starling
>
> PS - Hi James.
>
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