Subject: unable installing netbsd on laptop
To: None <netbsd-help@netbsd.org>
From: Mipam <mipam@ibb.net>
List: netbsd-help
Date: 04/09/2002 02:02:29
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Hi,

I was trying to install netbsd on a compaq aramda E500.
After creating the apropriate laptops disks i booted and things
went fine. However, when i wish to download dist files,
i'll get timeouts all over. There is seemingly a conflict
with the sound card (build in) and the pcmcia network card
the 3Com 3c575C-TX.
I could install openbsd which didnt give the timeouts right away.
However, after running the installed openbsd i also get timeouts
all the time. I compiled a openbsd kernel without sound support,
but no luck.
So both net and openbsd face the same problem in this laptop.
I'll attack the dmesg from openbsd.
I dont know anymore how to install netbsd, exept for using a compact
disk, but afther that i'll still get timeouts.
Any hints how to overcome this, or is this laptop with
pcmcia combination condemmed?

Perhaps nice to know that also on a new ibm thinkpad A30 (1.14mhz and
bla bla) with build in intel network card also gives fxp0 timeouts.
However, they arent fatal as you'll still be able to continue downloads
after timeout reports on this laptop.
I cannot imagine nobody else ever walked into trouble like this?
Bye,

Mipam


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